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MaxwellGT2000 on 27 May 2009

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HappySqurriel on 27 May 2009
txrattlesnake said:

Well, the results of a poll that someone was published on this site not too long ago where they asked people if they thought they would be more likely to buy a PS4 if it was a graphical powerhouse that was the same leap in technology as the PS3 over the PS2 or if they would be more likely to buy a PS4 if it was just a slightly tweaked machine like the Wii, and the vast majority of people polled said they wanted a console that was another supersystem instead of just a slightly tweaked system. So, what do you do when more people want much better graphics, etc, yet development costs are too high?

Don't trust polls to predict people's behavior because what people say they will do and what they actually do are two very different things ...
Consider how many of the people who bought the Wii this generation would have said they were more likely to buy a PS3 if it was a major graphical improvement (like the PS2 was) than a system that was only a modest improvement in graphics and focused on motion controlls.

There are dozens of factors people don't take into consideration when creating these polls, for example would these people be willing to buy a PS4 that had a similar graphical improvement over the PS3 if it meant that the size of the console, its energy consumption, and the cost of the console/accessories/games also saw a similar increase to what the PS3 meant in comparison to the PS2? Is there really any demand for a $1000+ console with $70+ games and $70+ controllers, that is the size of a large tower PC and can act as a space-heater because of how much energy it uses?



BMaker11 on 27 May 2009

This thread is still going on? Its' topic has been changed enough time, but I guess you all forgot the OP said basically "your console is utter trash". With an opening comment like that, why is this thread on page 26?



hentai_11 on 27 May 2009
BMaker11 said:
This thread is still going on? Its' topic has been changed enough time, but I guess you all forgot the OP said basically "your console is utter trash". With an opening comment like that, why is this thread on page 26?

That's because your personal posts per page settings are too low. My settings are at 50 posts per page and I am on Page 6.



TheSteve on 27 May 2009

You can't really call the system "future proof" with its already inferior RAM. Now, if they start selling extra RAM for it, like an old computer, you may stretch some life out of it... Otherwise, it's going to quickly show its age as the next gen hits and trounces its rendering soundly (while they haven't turned away, 3rd party hasn't exaclty busted their hump to overcome this obstacle, showing in the inferior graphics in PS3 multiplat games).



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txrattlesnake on 27 May 2009

I'm not giving snakes a bad name. If the PS3 gets GT5 and then it gets FFXIII and they live up to their usuals sales levels as they should in Japan and in the end move the PS3 to where it has sold 5 to 7 million copies in Japan, then it gets a couple of more Kojima games and Kingdom Hearts 3 on top of that will it pass the Wii in the end probably not. But with those games and the others that will follow in their wake, it will surely pass the 50 million mark.

So, those are my numbers 5 to 7 million PS3s sold in Japan after the release of FF Versus XIII bringing more Japanese exclusives to the PS3 as a result.

And 50 to 70 million PS3s sold worldwide LTD putting it firmly in second place when this gen ends.



BMaker11 on 27 May 2009
hentai_11 said:
BMaker11 said:
This thread is still going on? Its' topic has been changed enough time, but I guess you all forgot the OP said basically "your console is utter trash". With an opening comment like that, why is this thread on page 26?

That's because your personal posts per page settings are too low. My settings are at 50 posts per page and I am on Page 6.

How do I change that? It used to be a high number of posts per page for me, but when the site updated one time (not VGC 2.0) it cut it to 10



Viper1 on 27 May 2009
BMaker11 said:
hentai_11 said:
BMaker11 said:
This thread is still going on? Its' topic has been changed enough time, but I guess you all forgot the OP said basically "your console is utter trash". With an opening comment like that, why is this thread on page 26?

That's because your personal posts per page settings are too low. My settings are at 50 posts per page and I am on Page 6.

How do I change that? It used to be a high number of posts per page for me, but when the site updated one time (not VGC 2.0) it cut it to 10

Hover your mouse over Quick Links above.  Select Edit profile.   Posts per page is listed at the bottom.



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thx1139 on 27 May 2009
txrattlesnake said:
HappySqurriel said:

There are several problems with the PS3 retaining sales strenght much past the begining of the next generation, and many of them are based on the market position it currently holds (both in terms of sales as well as strategy) and the difficulty of changing the way consumers see a product after it has been established.

The PS3 is currently an elitest early adopter product with sales that don't justify much exclusive third party support, and it will (probably) always be too expensive for the luddite late-adopters who buy late generation consoles because they're (amazingly) inexpensive. The kind of gamer who bought a 6+ year old PS2 at (roughly) $100 to play mass-market games like Guitar Hero and/or licenceware is not going to be all that excited to buy a 5 year old PS3 for $250 to play Killzone 2 when all the early adopters get excited about the minute details of next generation gaming; and to make matters worse, the gamer who buys a 6+ year old system is probably likely to be a late-adopter in other areas (like HDTV and Surround Sound) which limits the "Value" argument of the PS3.

 


     A $250.00 PS3 (being the only console that gets recognizable ports of Next gen games) will fair pretty well against a $400.00 to $500.00 Nextbox for the first couple of years of the Next gen. 


Your kidding yourself thinking that the NextBox will launch higher than $400.  Sony showed what a mistake that was and MS will not repeat that mistake.  Not to mention why would publishers port NextBox games to the PS3 and ignore the 360 when the 360 will continue to be sold and already will have sold more than the PS3. 



Its libraries that sell systems not a single game.

theRepublic on 27 May 2009
txrattlesnake said:

I'm not giving snakes a bad name. If the PS3 gets GT5 and then it gets FFXIII and they live up to their usuals sales levels as they should in Japan and in the end move the PS3 to where it has sold 5 to 7 million copies in Japan, then it gets a couple of more Kojima games and Kingdom Hearts 3 on top of that will it pass the Wii in the end probably not. But with those games and the others that will follow in their wake, it will surely pass the 50 million mark.

So, those are my numbers 5 to 7 million PS3s sold in Japan after the release of FF Versus XIII bringing more Japanese exclusives to the PS3 as a result.

And 50 to 70 million PS3s sold worldwide LTD putting it firmly in second place when this gen ends.

twesterm said:

Whenever I see threads like this I like to bring out this handy little chart I made:

You can speculate all you want about prices and what can and can't happen, but this chart paints a pretty clear picture.  In order to overtake 360 worldwide sales in three years, the PS3 would have to outsell it by 51k per week every week for the next three years.  That just isn't going to happen.

The only reasonable figure on there is the 5 figure (260 weeks) and that's 31k per week every week for fives years.  By the time five years is over the "winner" of this generation will have already been long decided and it just won't matter.

So yeah, just accept there's absolutely zero chance of the PS3 overtaking the 360 in worldwide sales or in the Americas.  It's possible it may happen in Others, but even that can't happen for several years.

I'm not saying the PS3 is a failure by any means, I'm just say it can't "win" and it can't overtake the 360 in a reasonable amount of time.

http://vgchartz.com/forum/post.php?id=2202853



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