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Why is everyone so fascinated with old games?

Because most new games are just old games with more complexity, better graphics, less depth and no soul.



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blaydcor said:
Zizzla_Rachet said:
This is all BS...Old School games feel More epic because of the Nostalgia tied to them....But then again...A lot of games post 32 bit and Beyond are crap...But anyway here is an attempt at an Analogy....If Ninja blade Would of Came out when the original Ninja Gaiden and Shinobi were out(of Course it would of been 2d But I mean story premise as the example) Would it have been criticized as much as it was?

If you don't understand it's OK....I used to smoke a lot of pot..

If it's nostalgia, than why are old games we've never played before just as fun? Or why are there dedicated masses of gamers who apprecite old school games yet are still barely in their teens (i.e., have rediscovered old games through emulation or the virtual console or inherited systems).

Exactly.

This needs to be quoted every time somebody says something about nostalgia.

Let me tell you my experience.

I didn't start gaming with the NES, in fact the first Zelda game I played was A Link To The Past. I played through Ocarina of Time and Wind Waker, only then did I get to play the original Legend of Zelda for the NES. Compared to the other Zeldas I've played, this one was very basic.

The story was told in simplistic fashion, but I got it right away. That game was magical, in a different way. It was difficult and it hooked me like no other Zelda game I had played up to that point, and a lot of the narrative was left to the imagination. I can't tell you how incredible my experience with that game was, it was like catching a fever. I began thinking about the game in my daily life, and it became such an experience.

I had a tremendously good and impressive time with Ocarina of Time as it was, the game was obviously deep. But this was in a whole other league. And it was the first NES game I played too. After that I really started enjoying other NES games, like Super Mario Bros. 3, and to my astonishment a lot of those games are better than their modern counterparts. And I was an Atari, and later Sega customer. As a gamer I never cared much for Nintendo until I later gave them a chance, and indeed some good things are good forever. Unless you're so jaded that technology is all you can grasp and see, I know quite a few people like this(they're usually younger), then you're going to convince yourself that everthing is crap just by the way it looks. You need to be able to enjoy games for what they are to really understand how great those classic games were and continue to be.

 



Trollinator said:
People don't really like old games. They simply feel as if they like old games because of the warm fuzzy feeling they get due to nostalgia.

The fact of the matter is that everything continues to evolve for the better. Nothing from back in the day is as good as what we have now. If you got a kid that had never played a video game before to play Mario Galaxy and then Super Mario Bros. for the NES he'd probably feel like vomiting from his eyes when the older game came on the screen, and he'd think that a 2-button controller is something designed for people with mental disabilities.

It's like when I have to listen to my Grandpa tell me how babe Ruth is the greatest baseball player of all time, or Gordie Howe is the greatest hockey player of all time, and how the games were so much better back then. Gimme a fucking break. Babe Ruth was a fat drunken pig that wouldn't make a triple-A team today, and Gordie Howe could barely skate backwards.

People simply associate old games, sports, etc with the happy feelings they experienced during that time. People think Super Mario Bros is a great game because it was great for it's time, and they had a blast playing it. It doesn't hold up today, though, that's just a fact. No old game does.

You people all seem to think that you're obligated to say that older games are better the same way sports fans feel obligated to put a fat pig like Babe Ruth or a coke addicted racist wife beater like Ty Cobb up on pedestals.

I don't care what any of you liars say, if you could only chose one game to play for the rest of your life it would not be a game from the 16 bit era. You'd end up falling into a boredom induced coma at some point. You'd want a game like World of Warcraft, Halo 3, Killzone 2 or something else where you can interact with other people and every match/dugeon, etc. has the possiblility of turning out different than the last.

Now you can all flame me in defiance, as you try to reassure yourselves that you really do love 16-bit crap more than you enjoy todays technical and innovative masterpieces.

You're under the assumption that:

1. All older games get sequels that improve upon them. Not true.

2. All changes to the formula have been for the better. Also not true.

Let's look at Actraiser or Comix Zone, two wholly original titles that never really saw sequels or even spiritual successors. They are the peak of what they did and there isn't anything out there afterwards(that I know of at least) that has attempted to improve on the formula.

Let's also look at the fifth generation wrestling games from AKI corporation, culminating in the amazing WWF No Mercy. Sure there were wrestling games after that, but many agree that by not evolving the formula and instead changing the core game itself, the magic was never recaptured. We can always agree that the graphics got better and the online gameplay is welcomed, but ultimately people want that gameplay scheme back and they get dual analog bullshit instead.

It's not a matter of games not being able to get better over time, it's a matter of developers just not giving the effort to improve upon winning formulas or continuing good ideas and instead scrapping them. It leaves the older games intact, because they've never been threatened.

About your example, I can't say that Super Mario Bros. is better than Super Mario Galaxy, but I can surely say I enjoyed Super Mario World far more than Galaxy, and that comes from me enjoying 2D Mario games better than 3D ones. This is yet another example of Nintendo moving away from a winning formula(obviously just to get to another one) but it doesn't change that preferences will be made and one is not necessarily better than the other.

 



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There are classics and clunkers in the old and the new.

Personally, I am fascinated by Pong to Wii.

And I have both - and many things in between.

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Good games are rare. Frankly there are just as many bad games from the past as there are for this gen. Alot of gamers break out their old consoles to play that oldie but goldie just for funsies. Paying 10 or 15 bucks to have that game on your new console (especially if your old console finally kicked the bucket) is well worth it. I keep hoping they will release FFVII for PSN cause one of my discs is now borked.



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Trollinator said:

Xen said:

Bottom line: what do we have today? better graphics, weaker gameplay (broad generalization). Ah, and online, which, if I needed, I'd go and find on the PC.

 

 It's hilarious how all of you guys that are praising older games just automatically associate better graphics with worse game play. Totally hilarious, untrue, and bogus assessment. I wasn't aware that heavy doses of nostalgia caused brain damage, but I guess ya learn something new everyday.

Yeah, very bogus. Because opinions do not exist.

 



mike, did you have an Atari 2600 and/or a NES?



Will you guys stop feeding the troll? You're just encouraging him.

Anyway, like many have said, good gameplay lasts forever.



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Trollinator said:
People don't really like old games. They simply feel as if they like old games because of the warm fuzzy feeling they get due to nostalgia.

If you think this is true, then you are going to have a hard time explaining away my case.

I never owned a NES back in the day, and in my limited experiences with the console, I never played Maga Man.  The first console I owned was a SNES, but again, I didn't play much Mega Man.  I did rent Mega Man X one time, but that was it.

About a month or two ago, I was given a NES and some games.  Mega Man 2 is one of those games.  I think it still plays very well, and has stood the test of time.  It is one of the great games.

It can't be nostalgia that is making me like the game.  The fact that it is a fun game is making me like it.



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