Really? I think that's a bit too pessimistic for life to date, by far. I mean, Endless Ocean could end up near that amount at the end of its life, and you don't think Punch-Out!! will get there?

No.

Punchout is not nearly as hyped as KZ2 was and the fans of the original are pretty old now and not the types to wait in line to buy a game on the first day.

If it turns out to be a really great game, it could probably outsell KZ2 lifetime tho.. but first week is pretty much out of the question.

wait, they announced 2 before 1 was done? I didn't even know that, wtf that's even worse on sony's management part >=( I had the AVGN face after reading that =_=

Killzone 1 was done in 2004. The Killzone 2 CGI trailer was shown at E3 2005. Killzone Liberation was the title being developed during that time and was released in October of 2006.

this is part of the review, as shown on metcritic:

"While Punch Out!! makes for an entertaining enough solitary experience, the back-seat driving aspect makes it positively shine as a party game. There's nothing quite like having a few friends over, passing the controller around, shouting advice, and just generally bonding over some hilarious, bloodless violence."

I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that this score is going to skew the average slightly. (It's an extreme score that most no one else will give it)

Your comments in this thread have been offensive to me, personally. I believe that you simply didn't know what you were, and are talking about. You don't know much about Nintendo besides the names of their fanchises and that you hate them.

You were probably drawn into this thread because you felt a need to defend Killzone 2, or simply bash Nintendo. Here is why this post is wrong imo, and why you should stop trying to defend it.

A. Much WORSE and less well known Nintendo "franchises" have sold over a million copies. So, there obviously IS a way a Nintendo "D" list franchise will sell over a million copies, as it has happened numerous times in the past, and will continue to happen in the future.

B. It is only your opinion that Punchout is a "D" list franchise. From the sales of the first game and the reviews of this one, it is clearly a very successful and well made franchise, at the very least.

C. Killzone is a D list franchise, according to your logic, or rather, a logic very similar to yours.

D. Generalizing and categorizing games based on your percieved quality of them is in and of itself, an ignorant act. It is a pitiful attempt to marginalize a game simply based on your precieved status of it, rather than its own merits.

Now, sir, while it is fine and dandy for you to exclaim that you think Punchout will sell like crap, flaming the entire franchise, simply because you became defensive at the mere mention of an HD exclusive, is inexcusable, and it offends me personally. An apology should be in order, but I doubt you could swallow your pride long enough to give us one, so just watch yourself in the future, so hopefully you don't end up in this situation again.

As for my prediction, 400k first week, 2.5m lifetime sales.

From initial reviews and impressions, I would guess this game will end up in the 85-90 range, which is excellent.

I mean, GH Metallica managed those same reviews, and it's easily the best Guitar Hero game yet released. 85-90 in our modern reviewing world, for a game that wasn't vastly hyped amongst reviewers, is a fantastic accomplishment.

ah got cha.

Nah, this game'll sell in long term more than front load sales.

500k the most for 1st week ,and around 2-3m life time.

Btw ,count me in for first week sales. :D

I don't think so. Killzone it a AAA tittle for Sony (and Sony deservs a lot of this tittle) and Puch-Out!! its a regular game (for Nintendo).