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axumblade said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
CGI-Quality said:
I think it's pretty sad that some of the same folks who defended Microsoft for actually BUYING exclusives so it would NEVER come to a Playstation (or Nintendo format for that matter), are pissed off about a T_I_M_E_D exclusive in ONE region.

Well, as mentioned, boohoo, Sony & Nintendo fans have been dealing with this kind of stuff the whole gen. It's Micrsosoft who entered a race to "kill off" the competition, THAT'S trying to screw over gamers. At least Ghostbusters is coming to the 360.

Sorry about the rant, I just think this complaining is quite pathetic.

 

Buying exclusives? To the best of my knowledge the things MS has purchased are timed exclusives and exclusive content to make their versions better. Sony was and still is the king of Moneyhatting, so I don't get your point here bro.

Because we know how great the DLC for Fallout 3 really is. x.o

Another thing, Sony are doing it so they can release the movie and game together on 1 blu-ray disc. They have been talking about the idea for months. It's just they didn't mention Ghostbusters, probably because it was supposed to be a surprise. Hense the reason for them gaining the publishing rights. I understand that you think there was no real reason for it but Sony seemed to have a decent idea and tried to go with it. If Sony didn't have the publishing rights, there might have been a possibility the release date would be approaching and they wouldn't have a game to put on the blu-ray. It's not nearly as big of a deal as the 1 year wait that the Sony fans had to do for Eternal Sonata or Bioshock or the few months timed exclusivity of Lost Planet and The Orange Box..I don't think there will be that massive of a change of the release dates of the games.

 

 

I understand the movie thing, but that doesn't change the fact that the game will still sell crap. Fallout 3 was found to be, overall superior on the 360 when compared to the PS3 version, by the reviews. This movie is complete proof that Sony is using the videogame industry to bring relevance to their dwindling electronics brand.



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Reasonable said:
Ah the smell of Double Standards...

This is why we'd be better with either full multiplatform titles or full exclusive titles and nothing in-between. The in-between stuff always affects consumers.

As ever though its amusing to see how if the exclusivity is favorable its fine and dandy (just buy the system I have then) but if its not it's a terrible practice and unfair (why shouldn't I get it, why make me wait, etc).

But you know, everyone buying exclusive DLC, etc. is essentially backing the system - and sometimes you're going to end up on the losing end.

I totally agree

 



CGI-Quality said:
Reasonable said:
Ah the smell of Double Standards...

This is why we'd be better with either full multiplatform titles or full exclusive titles and nothing in-between. The in-between stuff always affects consumers.

As ever though its amusing to see how if the exclusivity is favorable its fine and dandy (just buy the system I have then) but if its not it's a terrible practice and unfair (why shouldn't I get it, why make me wait, etc).

But you know, everyone buying exclusive DLC, etc. is essentially backing the system - and sometimes you're going to end up on the losing end.

Fellow VG Chartz members, please read this post. This man lives up to his name

 

Yes, how terrible it is that the good posts go unread

 



S.T.A.G.E. said:
axumblade said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
CGI-Quality said:
I think it's pretty sad that some of the same folks who defended Microsoft for actually BUYING exclusives so it would NEVER come to a Playstation (or Nintendo format for that matter), are pissed off about a T_I_M_E_D exclusive in ONE region.

Well, as mentioned, boohoo, Sony & Nintendo fans have been dealing with this kind of stuff the whole gen. It's Micrsosoft who entered a race to "kill off" the competition, THAT'S trying to screw over gamers. At least Ghostbusters is coming to the 360.

Sorry about the rant, I just think this complaining is quite pathetic.

 

Buying exclusives? To the best of my knowledge the things MS has purchased are timed exclusives and exclusive content to make their versions better. Sony was and still is the king of Moneyhatting, so I don't get your point here bro.

Because we know how great the DLC for Fallout 3 really is. x.o

Another thing, Sony are doing it so they can release the movie and game together on 1 blu-ray disc. They have been talking about the idea for months. It's just they didn't mention Ghostbusters, probably because it was supposed to be a surprise. Hense the reason for them gaining the publishing rights. I understand that you think there was no real reason for it but Sony seemed to have a decent idea and tried to go with it. If Sony didn't have the publishing rights, there might have been a possibility the release date would be approaching and they wouldn't have a game to put on the blu-ray. It's not nearly as big of a deal as the 1 year wait that the Sony fans had to do for Eternal Sonata or Bioshock or the few months timed exclusivity of Lost Planet and The Orange Box..I don't think there will be that massive of a change of the release dates of the games.

 

 

I understand the movie thing, but that doesn't change the fact that the game will still sell crap. Fallout 3 was found to be, overall superior on the 360 when compared to the PS3 version, by the reviews. This movie is complete proof that Sony is using the videogame industry to bring relevance to their dwindling electronics brand.

So this should only happen to quality titles that will sell well?

 



axumblade said:
gebx said:
pearljammer said:
I may be mistaken, but wasn't the 'Last Remnant' situation the same as this?

 

I think the big issue for this was that it had a set date for the release. Stores had been told the game is coming out this month for these consoles.

A lot of effort and time went to promote Ghostbusters for the Wii, PC and 360.. Those people won't be happy.

I understand and agree with you. I personally think Sony should have acquired the publishing rights a while back so there could still be a simultaneous release of the game. What I'm trying to do is just add perspective to the reasoning Sony did it. I think it was a good idea but poorly executed.

 

 

 

Another videogame product going down all in the name of saving Blu Ray's relevance. :)



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Reasonable said:
Ah the smell of Double Standards...

This is why we'd be better with either full multiplatform titles or full exclusive titles and nothing in-between. The in-between stuff always affects consumers.

As ever though its amusing to see how if the exclusivity is favorable its fine and dandy (just buy the system I have then) but if its not it's a terrible practice and unfair (why shouldn't I get it, why make me wait, etc).

But you know, everyone buying exclusive DLC, etc. is essentially backing the system - and sometimes you're going to end up on the losing end.

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Pretty sure a lot of the M$ "timed" exclusives were due to a) M$ having an established market presence b) difficulties coding for PS3. Thus why, even after the wait, Orange Box was unplayable on PS3 until later patches. If M$ outright "bought" exclusives to "ensure" they "never" came out on PS3... then they wouldn't have.



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theprof00 said:
theRepublic said:
theprof00 said:
LOL in fact, now that I think about it, This deal could actually allow for the ghostbusters game to actually be released.
Because it will allow income to roll in while removing the costs of publishing on the ps3.
Thanks Sony, from the 64M gamers!

What are you talking about?  This game was on schedule.  All versions were set to release on June 19th.  This deal only delays the game for the 360, Wii, PC, and DS.

 

 

I'm sorry, I was under the impression that Atari was not going to publish or finish the game for that matter and then Sony stepped in, finished the ps3 version and bought the rights.

Atari then sold the rights to the other versions of the game to other devs who are finishing the game.

Sony buying this game has nothing to do with the schedule of the other games. The game was gunna duke nukem forever until Sony came along and at least finished their own game.

 

 

Then why are the Wii and 360 versions coming out as well, since Sony saved the product? This product was going to fall through with or without Sony. Sonys funds go only to publishing their version.



S.T.A.G.E. said:
Munkeh111 said:
Many people do care about this game (though I am not one of them) in spite of the terrible game designer, who just loves to hate other games (though he does like Uncharted...)

 

 

This games fanbase has long since grown up and probably had children of their own. Kids today do not know about Ghostbusters, and the adults who grew up with it, don't care anymore. Those people are probably play the Wii with their kids for crying out loud. Sony published a non-factor game.

I'm really not going to comment on the story, but I will mention this: Ghostbusters is much more well known than you think it is in just about every age group.

Not only is the no-ghost symbol well known in just about every age group (and one of the most well known symbols in the world), it's also well loved by just about every age group.  You can walk up to anyone on the street and ask them "Who ya gonna call?" and they will instinctively answer "Ghostbusters" or "He-Man".  Just about any age group.

Fun little anecdote about Ghostbusters.  I have a niece and nephew that are 6 and 8 and they both know and love Ghostbusters, even before my sister knew I was working on the game.  My niece, the one who is 6, knows the first movie and knows almost every line.  She knows what characters she likes and she knows the 2nd movie is good, but not nearly as good as the first.

Ghostbusters is a 25 year old franchise that hasn't had much new in the last 20 years, but great things survive.  Even completely ignoring the game, Ghostbusters has always been alive because it is just a timeless classic.

Now, for people saying it's a typical movie game, do your research first. 

Typical movie games have the actors phone in their lines and have to deal with absolute release dates and short development cycles.  Ghostbusters: the Video Game has had a full development cycle, actors that care about their characters and are actually heavily involved with the game, and doesn't have to rush to release with a movie.  The game may be a sequel to the movies, but it isn't your typical movie game.

 

 

 



Vetteman94 said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
axumblade said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
CGI-Quality said:
I think it's pretty sad that some of the same folks who defended Microsoft for actually BUYING exclusives so it would NEVER come to a Playstation (or Nintendo format for that matter), are pissed off about a T_I_M_E_D exclusive in ONE region.

Well, as mentioned, boohoo, Sony & Nintendo fans have been dealing with this kind of stuff the whole gen. It's Micrsosoft who entered a race to "kill off" the competition, THAT'S trying to screw over gamers. At least Ghostbusters is coming to the 360.

Sorry about the rant, I just think this complaining is quite pathetic.

 

Buying exclusives? To the best of my knowledge the things MS has purchased are timed exclusives and exclusive content to make their versions better. Sony was and still is the king of Moneyhatting, so I don't get your point here bro.

Because we know how great the DLC for Fallout 3 really is. x.o

Another thing, Sony are doing it so they can release the movie and game together on 1 blu-ray disc. They have been talking about the idea for months. It's just they didn't mention Ghostbusters, probably because it was supposed to be a surprise. Hense the reason for them gaining the publishing rights. I understand that you think there was no real reason for it but Sony seemed to have a decent idea and tried to go with it. If Sony didn't have the publishing rights, there might have been a possibility the release date would be approaching and they wouldn't have a game to put on the blu-ray. It's not nearly as big of a deal as the 1 year wait that the Sony fans had to do for Eternal Sonata or Bioshock or the few months timed exclusivity of Lost Planet and The Orange Box..I don't think there will be that massive of a change of the release dates of the games.

 

 

I understand the movie thing, but that doesn't change the fact that the game will still sell crap. Fallout 3 was found to be, overall superior on the 360 when compared to the PS3 version, by the reviews. This movie is complete proof that Sony is using the videogame industry to bring relevance to their dwindling electronics brand.

So this should only happen to quality titles that will sell well?

 

 

 

Technically the only usual reason timed exclusives are purchased are to hurt the sales of another brand offering the same title. It is a demand killer, so yes, it is to gather more consumers to your system if they want the game enough. This is the most underhanded gen i've ever seen.