The Source is getting bashed...
HOW DARE YOU PEOPLE!!!
Give the man a break!
OT: Looks like my Wii > PS3 by 1k prediction went lop sided.
| The said: ^there's a reason why this site is not hired to report on sales for ANY software/ hardware company. |
Well, this is an attempt to provide free numbers on sales.
And as has been said, the other services are only estimates as well and suffer from problems of missing data.
Mike from Morgantown
 I am Mario.I like to jump around, and would lead a fairly serene and aimless existence if it weren't for my friends always getting into trouble. I love to help out, even when it puts me at risk. I seem to make friends with people who just can't stay out of trouble. Wii Friend Code: 1624 6601 1126 1492 NNID: Mike_INTV |
"The" I dont know why you think I control the final numbers. If I sent you a print screen of my computer screen right now you would see that I have no capacity to upload any data on the site. That is why data never goes up if you don't see a little "online" symbol next to ioi. Ultimately its a matter of hits. If we don't have compelling content on the front page, data tends to go up a little faster, if we do, a little slower. Since no one else provides free weekly data for Others and Americas, while two other major agencies do for Japan there is no rush to get our Japan data up. Why bother? I doubt most of you came to this site for weekly Japan numbers. They've been available for years, personally I've been following them since the PS1 era on a weekly basis.
As for us not getting hired...how exactly can a free service be hired? What would be the purpose? NPD, Chart Track, Media Create and the others have far more sample data to work with than we do, so they charge for their services. It makes perfect sense that we're not "hired". Most of these companies don't even need those services frankly. Nintendo uses something called Siras which it liscenses out to companies like Sony, which is why it can release data like "we sold 800,000 Wiis on Black Friday" the Monday after Black Friday. NPD and the others are used because they are considered objective, professional third parties with large samples while something like Siras is internal and considered 'subjective' even though it seems very accurate.
If you did a preview every week of an entire market in two hours, while translating the data you receive out of Japan into English, for free, without speaking Japanese, I guarentee you'd be wrong often. Instead you sit here and complain that the numbers you are getting early and for free are producing an outcome marginally different than what professional agencies produce with days of extra work, massive staffs, better samples and years of experience.
People are difficult to govern because they have too much knowledge.
When there are more laws, there are more criminals.
- Lao Tzu
| TheSource said: "The" I dont know why you think I control the final numbers. If I sent you a print screen of my computer screen right now you would see that I have no capacity to upload any data on the site. That is why data never goes up if you don't see a little "online" symbol next to ioi. Ultimately its a matter of hits. If we don't have compelling content on the front page, data tends to go up a little faster, if we do, a little slower. Since no one else provides free weekly data for Others and Americas, while two other major agencies do for Japan there is no rush to get our Japan data up. Why bother? I doubt most of you came to this site for weekly Japan numbers. They've been available for years, personally I've been following them since the PS1 era on a weekly basis. As for us not getting hired...how exactly can a free service be hired? What would be the purpose? NPD, Chart Track, Media Create and the others have far more sample data to work with than we do, so they charge for their services. It makes perfect sense that we're not "hired". Most of these companies don't even need those services frankly. Nintendo uses something called Siras which it liscenses out to companies like Sony, which is why it can release data like "we sold 800,000 Wiis on Black Friday" the Monday after Black Friday. NPD and the others are used because they are considered objective, professional third parties with large samples while something like Siras is internal and considered 'subjective' even though it seems very accurate. If you did a preview every week of an entire market in two hours, while translating the data you receive out of Japan into English, for free, without speaking Japanese, I guarentee you'd be wrong often. Instead you sit here and complain that the numbers you are getting early and for free are producing an outcome marginally different than what professional agencies produce with days of extra work, massive staffs, better samples and years of experience. |
My hero!
@ Source - I don't think you owe The or anyone an explanation. If they have problems with the numbers they should just leave the site.
| TheSource said: "The" I dont know why you think I control the final numbers. If I sent you a print screen of my computer screen right now you would see that I have no capacity to upload any data on the site. That is why data never goes up if you don't see a little "online" symbol next to ioi. Ultimately its a matter of hits. If we don't have compelling content on the front page, data tends to go up a little faster, if we do, a little slower. Since no one else provides free weekly data for Others and Americas, while two other major agencies do for Japan there is no rush to get our Japan data up. Why bother? I doubt most of you came to this site for weekly Japan numbers. They've been available for years, personally I've been following them since the PS1 era on a weekly basis. As for us not getting hired...how exactly can a free service be hired? What would be the purpose? NPD, Chart Track, Media Create and the others have far more sample data to work with than we do, so they charge for their services. It makes perfect sense that we're not "hired". Most of these companies don't even need those services frankly. Nintendo uses something called Siras which it liscenses out to companies like Sony, which is why it can release data like "we sold 800,000 Wiis on Black Friday" the Monday after Black Friday. NPD and the others are used because they are considered objective, professional third parties with large samples while something like Siras is internal and considered 'subjective' even though it seems very accurate. If you did a preview every week of an entire market in two hours, while translating the data you receive out of Japan into English, for free, without speaking Japanese, I guarentee you'd be wrong often. Instead you sit here and complain that the numbers you are getting early and for free are producing an outcome marginally different than what professional agencies produce with days of extra work, massive staffs, better samples and years of experience. |
Someone just got
03/10/09 HUGE day in my life:
Exblackman said:
Do you trust NPD that much.You do Know they estimate a big chunk of thier numbers too.They don't get numbers from Walmart,Amazon, and Toy R US. They estimate the sells of those places so in truth No ever knows how much really did consumers buy of anything just educated guesses. |
They get numbers from Amazon.
I'm for questioning all our sources, but let's not undermine the ones they have.
| TheSource said: "The" I dont know why you think I control the final numbers. If I sent you a print screen of my computer screen right now you would see that I have no capacity to upload any data on the site. That is why data never goes up if you don't see a little "online" symbol next to ioi. Ultimately its a matter of hits. If we don't have compelling content on the front page, data tends to go up a little faster, if we do, a little slower. Since no one else provides free weekly data for Others and Americas, while two other major agencies do for Japan there is no rush to get our Japan data up. Why bother? I doubt most of you came to this site for weekly Japan numbers. They've been available for years, personally I've been following them since the PS1 era on a weekly basis. As for us not getting hired...how exactly can a free service be hired? What would be the purpose? NPD, Chart Track, Media Create and the others have far more sample data to work with than we do, so they charge for their services. It makes perfect sense that we're not "hired". Most of these companies don't even need those services frankly. Nintendo uses something called Siras which it liscenses out to companies like Sony, which is why it can release data like "we sold 800,000 Wiis on Black Friday" the Monday after Black Friday. NPD and the others are used because they are considered objective, professional third parties with large samples while something like Siras is internal and considered 'subjective' even though it seems very accurate. If you did a preview every week of an entire market in two hours, while translating the data you receive out of Japan into English, for free, without speaking Japanese, I guarentee you'd be wrong often. Instead you sit here and complain that the numbers you are getting early and for free are producing an outcome marginally different than what professional agencies produce with days of extra work, massive staffs, better samples and years of experience. |
You just succeeded in all forms of life
Don't question The Source, you'll bring out "the eyes".
Leatherhat on July 6th, 2012 3pm. Vita sales:"3 mil for COD 2 mil for AC. Maybe more. " thehusbo on July 6th, 2012 5pm. Vita sales:"5 mil for COD 2.2 mil for AC."
Exblackman said:
Do you trust NPD that much.You do Know they estimate a big chunk of thier numbers too.They don't get numbers from Walmart,Amazon, and Toy R US. They estimate the sells of those places so in truth No ever knows how much really did consumers buy of anything just educated guesses.
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You do know that NPD is the de facto videogame tracking service in the US. It is used by anybody that's anybody in the industry, so yes I trust NPD that much.
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