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Shadowblind said:
Stats87 said:
Jeronimo66 said:
I still think ff 13 versus is coming to 360, I don't see the logic of putting ff 13 on 360 and then don't bring out versus as well, SE is just waiting to make the anouncement, just like I always knew ff 13 would come to 360.

just like the logic of not putting SO4 on the 360 and PS3 right?

Yeah, I'm sure you knew FF13 was coming to 360 the whole time, yep, you saw that one coming from a mile away.


I would guess then according to the ONLY reason I ever seem to hear out of people is that Microsoft moneyhatted SO4. Sony moneyhatted Versus?

FF13 on 360 blew me away. I was never following it, and certainly didn't expect it...but there have been some people who really have been saying since Square started supporting the 360 more fully that FFXIII would come to it...I wasn't one of those people though, that was for sure o_O this gen is absolutely crazy.

I added this to my original post "If there is a Versus for 360 announcement, it won't be till after FF13 releases in NA/EU. At least then they will have an idea of how the franchise sells on the 360." As for moneyhatting, unless a Developer comes out and says it, it's all speculation and entirely irrelevant. The games now there and it is not going to change, whether or not they bought it doesn't really matter much.

As for FF13 on 360, I didn't really see it coming and sure as heck wasn't it expecting it that soon. I thought maybe they would wait longer and allow more time for sales on both sides before making a decision.

 



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Avarice28 said:
Alot has changed since SE first put their games on the 360, again I am not knocking the console. But SE learned that if you want to sell a HD JRPG in Japan you must support the ps3 for HD rpg support (see WKC) or the wii or psp for sd jrpgs (tales and monsterhunter). Sales talk and I really do not see the need for versus on the 360, especially in Japan where it would not be sold on the 360 just like 13. Why? well it would also be exclusive in Japan where majority of rpg's flourish. Either way I really do not care since I only have 2 consoles this gen and they both have a "P" in there titles.

 

Considering it is the only JRPG only for PS3 so far in Japan it's hard to say. Who's to say that it's a guarantee it will sell near WKC numbers on PS3. Answer is...we don't know since we have nothing to go off of accept one game so far. It shows that PS3 will definitely be good for helping get sales in Japan but it cannot be stated as a guarantee at this point either.

 

(Sorta off topic here but not) since we have been discussing JRPG very in depth in here I wanted to let you guys see the new info I came across for Magna Carta 2's battle system. It is from www.siliconera.com.

Softmax wisely scrapped the Trinity Rings from Magna Carta: Tears of Blood. Famitsu reports the combat system in Magna Carta 2 is new and makes use of the environment through field attributes.

 

After a real-time field to combat switch players control a leader character while the computer takes care of the other party members. Leaders can be changed at anytime and there is a benefit to a swap. Team attacks from the chain system can be used after a leader change. Linked attacks between hero Juto and heroine Zephie may not grab your attention, but Magna Carta 2 has some cool looking encounters like this fight against a monstrous worm.



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Shadowblind said:
RPG said:
LO, TLR on PC, Eternal Sonata on PS3 and BD, needless to say I hated all of them. I have not played any of the later 360 JRPG since I sold my 360 a couple weeks before Halo ODST was announced, going to have to purchase the console again for that game and Forza 3.

Why is X-2 a "very apt comparsion" to Versus? Sure Versus is not a flagship game however the production values would have easily made it so had it not been for the story being mature. That is why it is not FF XIV according to Hashimoto, none the less I don't even need my time machine to know the KH team will make a game better than any JRPG on 360 or PS3.

@Stats: FFX-2 was a spin-off after the events of the original game. It can be likened to Tales of Symphonia DotNW in that regard. Theres a difference between that and a true sequel. And the same could be said of Dirge of Cerberus; a spi-off that, like a sequel, happened after the events of the original game, following different characters. A comparison between them and Versus is ery plausible, and if you believe that Versus will truly be great, you should welcome comparisons like this. If Versus is going to be as spectacular as I've been hearing, then it will put other spinoffs to shame.

Now as for the story, I haven't kept up with it, and since its not out yet (obviously) none of us know exactly how the characters from Final Fantasy XIII and Versus will intertwine, or react, or whatnot. Granted, if it truly is in a different universe altogether, then I'll ask why did they name it Final Fantasy XIII? Why not Final Fantasy XIV, or an entirely different game altogether? Is it in some way not up to par enough to be called a full-fledged Final Fantasy, or what? A marketing techinique perhaps, but I highly doubt thats all there is to the story, and I believe that in the end the game will be considered a spinoff, because it is not following the events of Final Fantasy XIII itself, thus bearing its same name but not being a sequel, it is a spin-off.

 

I admit, the comparison is there, but being that they're being developed simultaneously and have nothing to do with each-other (not as a sequel or direct spin-off) I still view it with a different eye then FFX-2.

I almost wish they hadn't called it FFV13 and instead called it something else, because some people seem to want to marginalize Versus by calling it a "spin-off". But of course, by adding "Final Fantasy" to the title the sales potential grows tenfold. However, this is all really semantics, as the title and designation as a spin-off or not will not directly affect the games quality in any form. (especially in this case)



Stats87 said:
Shadowblind said:
Stats87 said:
Jeronimo66 said:
I still think ff 13 versus is coming to 360, I don't see the logic of putting ff 13 on 360 and then don't bring out versus as well, SE is just waiting to make the anouncement, just like I always knew ff 13 would come to 360.

just like the logic of not putting SO4 on the 360 and PS3 right?

Yeah, I'm sure you knew FF13 was coming to 360 the whole time, yep, you saw that one coming from a mile away.


I would guess then according to the ONLY reason I ever seem to hear out of people is that Microsoft moneyhatted SO4. Sony moneyhatted Versus?

FF13 on 360 blew me away. I was never following it, and certainly didn't expect it...but there have been some people who really have been saying since Square started supporting the 360 more fully that FFXIII would come to it...I wasn't one of those people though, that was for sure o_O this gen is absolutely crazy.

I added this to my original post "If there is a Versus for 360 announcement, it won't be till after FF13 releases in NA/EU. At least then they will have an idea of how the franchise sells on the 360." As for moneyhatting, unless a Developer comes out and says it, it's all speculation entirely irrelevant. The games now there and it is not going to change, whether or not they bought it doesn't really matter much.

As for FF13 on 360, I didn't really see it coming and sure as heck wasn't it expecting it that soon. I thought maybe they would wait longer and allow more time for sales on both sides before making a decision.

 

 

I doubt Versus will come to 360. Stranger things have happened....but the most recent trailer for versus clearly stated "only for Playstation 3." If it does end up coming to 360, its not going to be for a long while. And thank the lord there is someone else out there who won't instantly say Microsoft moneyhatted every exclusive game on the console.



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Shadowblind said:
Stats87 said:
Shadowblind said:
Stats87 said:
Jeronimo66 said:
I still think ff 13 versus is coming to 360, I don't see the logic of putting ff 13 on 360 and then don't bring out versus as well, SE is just waiting to make the anouncement, just like I always knew ff 13 would come to 360.

just like the logic of not putting SO4 on the 360 and PS3 right?

Yeah, I'm sure you knew FF13 was coming to 360 the whole time, yep, you saw that one coming from a mile away.


I would guess then according to the ONLY reason I ever seem to hear out of people is that Microsoft moneyhatted SO4. Sony moneyhatted Versus?

FF13 on 360 blew me away. I was never following it, and certainly didn't expect it...but there have been some people who really have been saying since Square started supporting the 360 more fully that FFXIII would come to it...I wasn't one of those people though, that was for sure o_O this gen is absolutely crazy.

I added this to my original post "If there is a Versus for 360 announcement, it won't be till after FF13 releases in NA/EU. At least then they will have an idea of how the franchise sells on the 360." As for moneyhatting, unless a Developer comes out and says it, it's all speculation entirely irrelevant. The games now there and it is not going to change, whether or not they bought it doesn't really matter much.

As for FF13 on 360, I didn't really see it coming and sure as heck wasn't it expecting it that soon. I thought maybe they would wait longer and allow more time for sales on both sides before making a decision.

 

 

I doubt Versus will come to 360. Stranger things have happened....but the most recent trailer for versus clearly stated "only for Playstation 3." If it does end up coming to 360, its not going to be for a long while. And thank the lord there is someone else out there who won't instantly say Microsoft moneyhatted every exclusive game on the console.

Well making accusations of moneyhatting is a coping tactic for some, a way of marginalizing (yeah using that word again) the game itself, as if it is a lesser game because it was moneyhatted.

I will admit that when SO4 was first announced for 360, I thought that some money may have change hands. I own a 360 and PS3, so for me it wasn't a fanboyish thing. It just seemed really odd to me at the time. But it simply could have come down to the fact they wanted to get the game out sooner rather then later and Tri-Ace had experience with with the 360. (they even used the IU engine I think)



LordMatrix said:

Final Fantasy 13 Versus for Xbox 360! E3 2009 Megaton confirmed!

 

HUh?!/sarcasm/



LordMatrix said:

Final Fantasy 13 Versus for Xbox 360! E3 2009 Megaton confirmed!

Hypothetically if that happened, I would be very disappointed if that were the biggest news of E3.

I'm sure i'm not alone in this thinking when the biggest announcement of E3 is the release of a game on another platform when you already own the other platform as well.

 



LordMatrix said:

Final Fantasy 13 Versus for Xbox 360! E3 2009 Megaton confirmed!

I'd be so unhappy if that would be a big surprise or announcement. That being that the big news would be a big disappointment for E3.



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