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greenmedic88 said:
hanafuda said:
The big question is whether Wii Sports Resort will do the business or not.

There is a LOT hanging on it.

Production meeting demand is my first concern.

Since they shouldn't have the same logistical and production problems that Wii Fit had on launch, they have to move considerably more units right out of the gates, "long legs" arguments aside.

Realistically, I'd like to see sales figures and attachment rates somewhere between Wii Fit and Wii Play.

It cannot be another Wii Music although it's safe to say next to no one is predicting that.

They still have to manufacture all the Motion Plus attachments that are going to be bundled with that game.



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Serious_frusting said:
funny this article is saying adsactly what i have been thinking for the past few months

So you made a terrible prediction months before internet analysts came to the same wrong conclusions? Um...congratulations?

 



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Nintendo shares oversold: report
Sun Apr 19, 2009 4:34pm EDT


NEW YORK (Reuters) - Nintendo Co Ltd (7974.OS) shares are oversold, Barron's said on Sunday, and reported that strong growth for the Japanese maker of electronic game systems should resume this year.

The weekly investing magazine noted Nintendo shares have been hit since the company reduced its expectations for the fiscal year that ended last month, based on the company's more conservative outlook for Wii sales, news that Sony's (6758.T) PlayStation outsold Wii in Japan last month and amid broader concern about Japan's weak economic outlook.

Yet Barron's said some analysts believe the company beat profit expectations for the year completed, delivering $5.6 billion operating profit, and predict that earnings will rise sharply in fiscal 2010. Video-game sales, which analysts see as recession-proof, are seen rising in the second half of this year.

Barron's also said investors were ignoring Nintendo's strong balance sheet, its capacity for boosting its dividend and shares that are priced reasonably relative to the company's projected growth.

http://www.reuters.com/article/companyNews/idUKTRE53I2BN20090419



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theRepublic said:
greenmedic88 said:
hanafuda said:
The big question is whether Wii Sports Resort will do the business or not.

There is a LOT hanging on it.

Production meeting demand is my first concern.

Since they shouldn't have the same logistical and production problems that Wii Fit had on launch, they have to move considerably more units right out of the gates, "long legs" arguments aside.

Realistically, I'd like to see sales figures and attachment rates somewhere between Wii Fit and Wii Play.

It cannot be another Wii Music although it's safe to say next to no one is predicting that.

They still have to manufacture all the Motion Plus attachments that are going to be bundled with that game.

Unless there's a severe shortage of gyroscopes used in the attachment, which there shouldn't, given that Nintendo announced it last year and has likely been working the details of production long before that public announcement, I see absolutely no reason why production of Wii Sports Resort should be as constrained as they were for Wii Fit.

Shipping a unit of Wii Fit is about the same as shipping a Wii console based upon shipping weight and volume.

Wii Sport Resort should be no larger than Wii Play.

It's also considerably easier to produce a $20 dongle compared to the Balance Board. Unless you think Nintendo is planning on selling these at a loss (without even knowing the production costs, I'll say they aren't).

 



megaman79 said:
Nintendo shares oversold: report
Sun Apr 19, 2009 4:34pm EDT


NEW YORK (Reuters) - Nintendo Co Ltd (7974.OS) shares are oversold, Barron's said on Sunday, and reported that strong growth for the Japanese maker of electronic game systems should resume this year.

The weekly investing magazine noted Nintendo shares have been hit since the company reduced its expectations for the fiscal year that ended last month, based on the company's more conservative outlook for Wii sales, news that Sony's (6758.T) PlayStation outsold Wii in Japan last month and amid broader concern about Japan's weak economic outlook.

Yet Barron's said some analysts believe the company beat profit expectations for the year completed, delivering $5.6 billion operating profit, and predict that earnings will rise sharply in fiscal 2010. Video-game sales, which analysts see as recession-proof, are seen rising in the second half of this year.

Barron's also said investors were ignoring Nintendo's strong balance sheet, its capacity for boosting its dividend and shares that are priced reasonably relative to the company's projected growth.

http://www.reuters.com/article/companyNews/idUKTRE53I2BN20090419

I don't know why they don't announce a buy back if they're that oversold.

The main problem Nintendo is having in terms of keeping investors satisfied is simply too much growth, too fast.

They're a victim of their own success and now investors seem to be unsatisfied with anything other than unrealistic expectations.

Undervalued or not, it's pretty hard for me to overlook the +30% loss I've taken on NTDOY over the last year.

 



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LAUGHINGMYFUCKINGASSOFF!

I hate douchebags who write shit to get traffic to their article...

It's sad that yahoo has to resort to this...

Oh well, looks like the selling of personal information to third parties doesn't pay as good as it used to...




I blame Wii Fit.



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The Wii sales were always a miracle for me, but at a time it has to come to an end. The hardware is outdated and ridicolous keeping in mind the price tag. It is the power of the Playstation 2 for more than twice the price.

Nintendo took the family games invented by Sony and marketed them right. All this Wii Sports Stuff etc was existing before in some form on the PS2 using the PS2's Webcam Playstation Eye.

I could never understand why Sony always (up until now) underestimates what they somehow created (Family Games). Friends of mine were playing FITNESS Games already several years ago with their PS2 and the Playstation Eyecam.

The biggest part of Wii buyers are casual gamers without any technical knowledge about the platform. They do not know about Full-HD etc. Of course there are also a lot of Fanboys from former Nintendo Consoles, but already the Gamecube was no match for the PS2 or XBOX.

The real gamers which have 20+ games and regulary are buying games are not the Wii Clients, but people owning "real" consoles like PS3 and XBOX360.

To create complex long motivation games, the Wii is not a serious platform because of the Hardware Limitations.

So having other Games than Wii Sports and Wii Fit up to the Top Sales slots would surprise me. Nintendo is lucky because they can already make money out of the Hardware. If not, things would not look that rosy....

But now Wii Sales may start to decline but I doubt that I Wii 2 would save it...



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I find it ironic that this whole shit-storm has developed around the Deca Sports 2 release. People have spent two years criticizing the Wii casuals and their inability to distinguish between 'good games' and 'bad games'.

Now, these people may not know games but they aren't stupid. God knows why the original sold so well but obviously people have decided that the original didn't represent enough quality to warrant purchasing the sequel. As the saying goes, fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me.

Wii Sports on the other hand is still selling like hot cakes and remains one of the most, if not THE most played Wii games, so i fully expect people to flock to the sequel, in all regions. If Wii Sports Resort doesn't sell then THAT would be news but it would still only be news in Japan. Japan now accounts for less than 10% of the home console market and long ago ceased to be the barometer for the health and trends of the world videogame market.