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vlad321 on 18 April 2009
MikeB said:

That's awfull, although I do understand and tolerate forms of piracy. I am happy that PS3 gaming piracy so far is non-existant. Console games are just a form of entertainment luxury, I understand that a person who is hungry steals some food, I understand a poor student badly wanting and thus pirating a handy but too expensive scientific application (and for example Windows, Photoshop, etc), but it seems the PC gaming community is continuing its downwards spiral with IMO intolerant behaviour from the majority of users.

With piracy being virtually non-existant on the PS3, at least the console virtually only attracts the more honest software users. Developers should IMO appreciate this (and most seem they do).

 

Now if only PS3 games were worth my time.....



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starcraft on 18 April 2009
vlad321 said:
MikeB said:

That's awfull, although I do understand and tolerate forms of piracy. I am happy that PS3 gaming piracy so far is non-existant. Console games are just a form of entertainment luxury, I understand that a person who is hungry steals some food, I understand a poor student badly wanting and thus pirating a handy but too expensive scientific application (and for example Windows, Photoshop, etc), but it seems the PC gaming community is continuing its downwards spiral with IMO intolerant behaviour from the majority of users.

With piracy being virtually non-existant on the PS3, at least the console virtually only attracts the more honest software users. Developers should IMO appreciate this (and most seem they do).

Now if only PS3 games were worth my time.....

Dont be stupid Vlad.  It doesn't matter if the console has great games.  It only matters that in the future it will have great games and will have sold 140 million units.

 



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JaggedSac on 18 April 2009
vlad321 said:
JaggedSac said:
vlad321 said:
JaggedSac said:
LOL. vlad, you have wacked out sensibilities.

Make a good game and you get my money. I'm not supporting shit, plain and simple.

It isn't a question of support.  It is a matter of you obtaining a copy of a product that you have no rights to.  Much like a movie theatre.  You aren't allowed to watch a movie and then pay afterwards if you think it is good.  That would be much like tipping or charity.  The product is free, but if you want, you can give us some money. LOL.

But there is no trying to reason with people such as yourself, in their mind they think are right and justified.

 

 

Again, copying isn't theft.

Where did I say it was?

 



salaminizer on 18 April 2009
KylieDog said:
Maybe if they remove secuROM more people would be happy with a paid version.



Use secuROM = screw paying for it.

what the hell are you talking about?

well, I think the surprise in this news is the amount of people that bought the game then. I mean, the number of pirates looks perfectly normal to me, but I thought there would be more buyers online.



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Kasz216 on 18 April 2009
salaminizer said:
KylieDog said:
Maybe if they remove secuROM more people would be happy with a paid version.



Use secuROM = screw paying for it.

what the hell are you talking about?

well, I think the surprise in this news is the amount of people that bought the game then. I mean, the number of pirates looks perfectly normal to me, but I thought there would be more buyers online.

Securom can screw yo your computer... so nobody wants to pay for it.

Heck I know I've got this game Super Power 2.  I bought it.  When i get to replaying it though I'm going to pirate it.

Why?  It's got Starforce one of the worst and most dangerous piracy protection programs out there.

Now people less patient then me may say "why the heck should I buy this game when i gotta download the pirated version anyway to not screw up my PC!"

 



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salaminizer on 18 April 2009
Kasz216 said:
salaminizer said:
KylieDog said:
Maybe if they remove secuROM more people would be happy with a paid version.



Use secuROM = screw paying for it.

what the hell are you talking about?

well, I think the surprise in this news is the amount of people that bought the game then. I mean, the number of pirates looks perfectly normal to me, but I thought there would be more buyers online.

Securom can screw yo your computer... so nobody wants to pay for it.

Heck I know I've got this game Super Power 2.  I bought it.  When i get to replaying it though I'm going to pirate it.

Why?  It's got Starforce one of the worst and most dangerous piracy protection programs out there.

Now people less patient then me may say "why the heck should I buy this game when i gotta download the pirated version anyway to not screw up my PC!"

 

but Demigod doesn't have any kind of DRM

 



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Kasz216 on 18 April 2009
salaminizer said:
Kasz216 said:
salaminizer said:
KylieDog said:
Maybe if they remove secuROM more people would be happy with a paid version.



Use secuROM = screw paying for it.

what the hell are you talking about?

well, I think the surprise in this news is the amount of people that bought the game then. I mean, the number of pirates looks perfectly normal to me, but I thought there would be more buyers online.

Securom can screw yo your computer... so nobody wants to pay for it.

Heck I know I've got this game Super Power 2.  I bought it.  When i get to replaying it though I'm going to pirate it.

Why?  It's got Starforce one of the worst and most dangerous piracy protection programs out there.

Now people less patient then me may say "why the heck should I buy this game when i gotta download the pirated version anyway to not screw up my PC!"

 

but Demigod doesn't have any kind of DRM

 

Ah, fair enough.

 



Bitmap Frogs on 18 April 2009
vlad321 said:
JaggedSac said:
vlad321 said:
JaggedSac said:
LOL. vlad, you have wacked out sensibilities.

Make a good game and you get my money. I'm not supporting shit, plain and simple.

It isn't a question of support.  It is a matter of you obtaining a copy of a product that you have no rights to.  Much like a movie theatre.  You aren't allowed to watch a movie and then pay afterwards if you think it is good.  That would be much like tipping or charity.  The product is free, but if you want, you can give us some money. LOL.

But there is no trying to reason with people such as yourself, in their mind they think are right and justified.

 

 

Again, copying isn't theft.

 

So you would be willing to accept a job on which your employer paid you or not depending how happy he felt about you?

Knowing that he could use that excuse to not pay you when it was inconvenient to him?

Why don't you come over to Spain to work for me? I could use some helping hand that only gets paid for his job when I feel like paying his wage.

 





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vlad321 on 18 April 2009
Bitmap Frogs said:
vlad321 said:
JaggedSac said:
vlad321 said:
JaggedSac said:
LOL. vlad, you have wacked out sensibilities.

Make a good game and you get my money. I'm not supporting shit, plain and simple.

It isn't a question of support.  It is a matter of you obtaining a copy of a product that you have no rights to.  Much like a movie theatre.  You aren't allowed to watch a movie and then pay afterwards if you think it is good.  That would be much like tipping or charity.  The product is free, but if you want, you can give us some money. LOL.

But there is no trying to reason with people such as yourself, in their mind they think are right and justified.

 

 

Again, copying isn't theft.

 

So you would be willing to accept a job on which your employer paid you or not depending how happy he felt about you?

Knowing that he could use that excuse to not pay you when it was inconvenient to him?

Why don't you come over to Spain to work for me? I could use some helping hand that only gets paid for his job when I feel like paying his wage.

 

In georgia all contracts are at will. So yes, that's how it actually works. He could not like my haircut and he can fire me for that. Also, don't people get fired if they don't do their job? If the games failed at their job (entertain me) then they don't deserve to be paid (for). Also it's funny you should say that. I'm gonna start looking for work in a year or two in Spain. EU citizen and all and the colege will help me find a job there.

 



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HD vs Wii, PC vs HD: http://www.vgchartz.com/forum/thread.php?id=93374

Why Regenerating Health is a crap game mechanic: http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=3986420

gamrReview's broken review scores: http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=4170835

 

JaggedSac on 18 April 2009
vlad321 said:
Bitmap Frogs said:

 

So you would be willing to accept a job on which your employer paid you or not depending how happy he felt about you?

Knowing that he could use that excuse to not pay you when it was inconvenient to him?

Why don't you come over to Spain to work for me? I could use some helping hand that only gets paid for his job when I feel like paying his wage.

 

In georgia all contracts are at will. So yes, that's how it actually works. He could not like my haircut and he can fire me for that. Also, don't people get fired if they don't do their job? If the games failed at their job (entertain me) then they don't deserve to be paid (for). Also it's funny you should say that. I'm gonna start looking for work in a year or two in Spain. EU citizen and all and the colege will help me find a job there.

 

Yes, someone can be fired for not doing their job, but they must be compensated for the time that they spent working on said job.  At least that is how things get done in the US.  Protects the worker from unscrupulous people who would say the quality of work was unacceptable regardless of the actually results.  Thus, getting something for free, which should not have actually been free.

vlad is partaking of a product that of which he has no rights to.  The trading of money for a product(such as a digital copy of a game) is basically getting the rights to use said product.  vlad is giving no money, so has no rights to use said product, of which he does so anyway.  vlad is making the very odd assumption that everyone has the rights to use all products that are available in the world for free, and if he likes said product, he will compensate the provider accordingly.  This is a very odd sense of entitlement.  Especially given the assumption that all consumers would have the good grace to provide compensation based on the quality of the product.