Hey Mrstickball, I never said I thought it would happen. I said it's possible, but not likely. I was merely trying to point out what the OP meant because it seemed like most people werent getting it.
And I'm not a PS3 fanboy. Nintendo fanboy if anything!
| mrstickball said: Wiped, do you realize the X360:PS3 marketshare gap has decreased this year, and not increased? What big games does the PS3 have that aren't going to drag it down into the 10k/wk category over the summer? I'm not arguing that the 360 will move some fantastic number of units, but I don't see it moving so little as to allow the PS3 to achieve a 6:1 or 7:1 ratio. So far, this year, the PS3 has sold 2.5:1 systems in Japan. In the same timespan in 2008 (Jan-Mar), the PS3 had a 6.6:1 gap. So that gap has shrunk by 3 times in the last year...Not increased. I don't get the crazy logic that the PS3 is going to sell 6-7 million units even after the big hitters come out. It'll get a fantastic boost, but I don't see it selling as well as the PS3 fanboys want to argue. |
Final Fantasy XII on PS2 sold 2.42 million copies in Japan and GT4 sold well over a million in Japan. Even if half those people that plan to buy those games for the PS3 already own a PS3 in Japan that still means that FFXIII and GT5 have the potential to at the very least move 1.5 million new PS3s in Japan during the holiday season. Throw in another 1 million for Versus XIII and you still have the PS3, at the least, having an advantage of 5.5 million to less than 1.5 million, at most for the 360 in Japan. And the two Final Fanatasies and GT5 aren't the only games coming to the PS3 over the next year and a half. There will also be new games from Hideo Kojima, Team ICO's game, probably a new Yakuza game from Sega (and the latest one has sold 2x as many copies of the any of the 360's games there), Ninja Gaiden Sigma II, Eternal Mana Rossaria, Tales of Vesperia PS3 and probably Star Ocean 4 PS3 and The Last Remnant PS3. And the PS3 version of any big Western multiplat game that sees release in Japan will most likely continue to sell much better there than the 360 version as will Japanese multiplat games: GTA IV sold more than twice what the 360 version did in Japan, SFIV PS3 sold 2x times as many copies as the 360 version, and RE5 sold 4x as many copies as the 360 version.
Heavens to Murgatoids.
the 360 should sell 2 mill LTD japan.. which is not a bad figure at all..for the low expectations it had. and it will always be known as the JRPG console of this gen. For m$ that is game point. japan is never an easy market to conquer, or understand. clearly the ps3 seems to be lifting up, but its too early to say if this is a trend or just temporary.
Overall Its still 1 million units.Thats 25% of the HD market in japan. even if a dev does sell 50-100k units on it.. its money.
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Hmm FFXIII release going to make PS3 reach 6-7 million??
three game will actually sell 2-3 million consoles? while it took PS3 2,5 years to reach 3 million with all the great games released so far....
Highly unlikely.
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I think BTFeather is putting too much faith that the games in question will more of a difference than the previous games. Yes sales will increase, but no more than what Haze, Heavenly Sword, KZ2 have done. So no FF14 and GT will not magicly double the numbers. In the end when it's done developers will "continue" on their current HD plans.
Squilliam: On Vgcharts its a commonly accepted practice to twist the bounds of plausibility in order to support your argument or agenda so I think its pretty cool that this gives me the precedent to say whatever I damn well please.
| Naum said: Hmm FFXIII release going to make PS3 reach 6-7 million?? three game will actually sell 2-3 million consoles? while it took PS3 2,5 years to reach 3 million with all the great games released so far.... Highly unlikely. |
There haven't been that many great Japanese games released for the PS3 yet this gen other than the Yakuza games and MGS4. And those two are in no way as high profile as Gran Turismo 5 and two main series Final Fantasies. However, when those three games release you will see tremendous sales in Japan for the PS3. There is no reason to think it won't reach 5 million by the end of 2009 now that the games that people have been waiting for since 2006 are finally being released.
Heavens to Murgatoids.
If MGS4 can only bump the PS3 to 77k how do you expect GT5 do do anything substantial ...?
and before you say MGS is nothing in Japan, the previous MGS games topped around 800k there ... not far off the 1 million for GT you mentioned.
As for FF ... all the people that buy VS will buy the other one ... or whichever one is out first ... it wont be 1.5M million for 13 then another 1.5M for VS
| RolStoppable said: It's absolutely reasonable to suggest that about one million PS3s will be sold in the release week of each game (GT5, FF XIII, FF Vs. XIII). I don't see what the problem is. |
I agree but the problem is so far none of the three games listed has a confirmed release date. So we will never know exactly when it would happen. Could be the end of this year, next year or year 2016.
MikeB predicts that the PS3 will sell about 140 million units by the end of 2016 and triple the amount of 360s in the long run.
Actually, the worst part of thread is that it is based on the assumption that DEVELOPERS would see the situation this way. I doubt that developers will place enormous faith in future PS3 sales, due to the backlash that came with the relative failure of PS3 against its predecessor's sales. It may not have killed the PS3, but it will definitely keep developers from looking at anything but the 3 million consoles that have been sold up until now when making platform decisions.
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