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Slimebeast said:
"Look! MS are closing their first party studios and keep charging for Xbox Live - they must be afraid of Sony!"

Laughable.

 

I agree with this part, it doesn't make any sense. If anything it shows the opposite is true.



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Samus Aran said:
Senlis said:

So, you don't have anything constructive to say. Instead, you make fun of me because I own a Wii.

 

He just said that the wii is the ps2 of this gen...

Yea, I figured.  In some ways the Wii is like the PS2, but the XBOX360 has plenty of characteristics that the PS2 also had.  I don't have much time to type this, but here is a few:

Wii is like PS2:

  Has the most sales

  Weakest graphically

XBOX360 is like PS2:

  Released first this generation

  Has a game library that is similar to the PS2

  Tends to break easier than the other consoles

  Lots of PS2 fans now play XBOX360 (that I have seen)

Also, if you are debating between XBOX360 and PS3, the XBOX360 has more sales and is supposedly weaker graphically, which is the context I was using.

 




 

Microsoft closed a few studios, but people forget they made a new "Halo Studio", a studio to work on Arcade titles, and I have a feeling there is another MGS studio out there with a surprised title we don't know about yet



Good article... can agree with a lot of the points made.

Aint there a graph that shows something about at the same point in the consoles lifetime PS3 is like 1.5+ million consoles up? And thats without the pricecut thats sure to come this year.



                            

Senlis said:

A couple things I disagree with on the article.

First off, I don't like the word "afraid".  It's more like Sony is the company they can most directly compete against.

Under the heading "Context":  I never did like the work "high-definition" because it is loosly defined and implies that all games on the XBOX360/PS3 are 1080p.  This is not the case with many popular games on the system.

That is besides the point, the article seems to imply that the XBOX360 is not high definition where the PS3 is.  Maybe they are talking about movies, but they don't say that.

They also seem to imply that Sony could have magically released the same PS3 at the time of the XBOX360 release for the same price it is now.  That would not have happened, they would have either weakened the system or upped the price durastically.  Probably both would have happened.  If they had release a console more along the lines of the PS2 at the same time the XBOX360 released, then maybe things would have been different.  All of the PS2 fans would have ran to the PS3 in that case.  As it is now, it seems the XBOX360 is the PS2 of this generation.

Under the heading "Grand Scheme":  The XBOX360 is not competing with the PSP.  Even if the PSP took over the entire handheld market, it wouldn't make that much difference to the XBOX360 market share.  The PSP has no place in that article.

As for the article as a whole, I think Microsoft has proven that they can compete in the gaming industry.  I seriously doubt that Nintendo, Microsoft or Sony will go the way of the Sega any time soon.

Actually, it implies that the games are in 720p or better.

The statement about the 360 being the PS2 of this generation is laughable.  It won't have half the sales of the PS2, it won't dominate anything like the PS2.  It will however, break down at a higher rate than the PS2.



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@Senlis ...Nah, to be a "PS2" means to be king of a generation, and a king on all the regions at that. That's what the Wii, and only Wii, is this generation.



Well, lacking first party support isn't that what killed the PS3 launch? Sony had plenty of first party studios, but almost all of their games were nothing special, unlike say Nintendo or Sega first party games which are really memorble and represent their companies well the Sony first party games have always been like mediocre 3rd party games. They seem to have learned from this lession now though since they are pumping more money into their 1st party projects, like KZ2 or LBP. However I bet Sony is feeling really stupid now for relying mainly on the fact that the killer-games for their systems have been 3rd party.



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KungKras said:
Well, lacking first party support isn't that what killed the PS3 launch? Sony had plenty of first party studios, but almost all of their games were nothing special, unlike say Nintendo or Sega first party games which are really memorble and represent their companies well the Sony first party games have always been like mediocre 3rd party games. They seem to have learned from this lession now though since they are pumping more money into their 1st party projects, like KZ2 or LBP. However I bet Sony is feeling really stupid now for relying mainly on the fact that the killer-games for their systems have been 3rd party.

And suddenly...MS opens the wallet...and sales boom...good job MS,even if some 1`st party studios had to go to support this move...a bold move,but it worked/will still work.

 



kjj4t9rdad said:
Senlis said:

A couple things I disagree with on the article.

First off, I don't like the word "afraid".  It's more like Sony is the company they can most directly compete against.

Under the heading "Context":  I never did like the work "high-definition" because it is loosly defined and implies that all games on the XBOX360/PS3 are 1080p.  This is not the case with many popular games on the system.

That is besides the point, the article seems to imply that the XBOX360 is not high definition where the PS3 is.  Maybe they are talking about movies, but they don't say that.

They also seem to imply that Sony could have magically released the same PS3 at the time of the XBOX360 release for the same price it is now.  That would not have happened, they would have either weakened the system or upped the price durastically.  Probably both would have happened.  If they had release a console more along the lines of the PS2 at the same time the XBOX360 released, then maybe things would have been different.  All of the PS2 fans would have ran to the PS3 in that case.  As it is now, it seems the XBOX360 is the PS2 of this generation.

Under the heading "Grand Scheme":  The XBOX360 is not competing with the PSP.  Even if the PSP took over the entire handheld market, it wouldn't make that much difference to the XBOX360 market share.  The PSP has no place in that article.

As for the article as a whole, I think Microsoft has proven that they can compete in the gaming industry.  I seriously doubt that Nintendo, Microsoft or Sony will go the way of the Sega any time soon.

Actually, it implies that the games are in 720p or better.

The statement about the 360 being the PS2 of this generation is laughable.  It won't have half the sales of the PS2, it won't dominate anything like the PS2.  It will however, break down at a higher rate than the PS2.

And some games on the XBOX360/PS3 don't even run at 720p.

It seems I have offended some people by saying the XBOX360 is like the PS2.  I have already said that I wasn't talking about direct sales comparisons.  Please put the torches and pitchforks away and go home.




 

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