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SnesTea on 29 March 2009
blaydcor said:

Er, yeah, but they aren't paralell worlds. Characters from Hyrule show up in the Oracle games and all that. And, uh, your post just AGREED with me, I was saying the same thing: that Hyrule is just a continent or big country.

@Snesboy: Yeah, but it had to have the physical space to exist; it was a physically manifested dream world. Hence there's just open ocean once the Windfish is gone, but not before. Link was not in a dream, he was in a physical projection of a dream.

 

Damn, never even thought of that.



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Orca_Azure on 29 March 2009

Maybe it has a subtext about global warming >_>



Azelover on 29 March 2009
Blacksaber said:
I would have to say this game will be at the end one of the 2 time lines since the technology has never been seen before in any other one...

 

I'd like to point out the Oracle games and Minish Cap both had rail roads in them.

But since you're talking about the technology, indeed but Phantom Hourglass should have been a big clue. The real shift in technology occured in Phantom Hourglass, not Spirit Tracks, when they moved from wind sailing, and "magical bombing" to mechanical ships. Nintendo did that because the wind control was too limiting, but regardless the shift was there and that's where it was.

New technology used in the ships is the same used for the train, so they had the technology already at the end of Phantom Hourglass. All they needed was land to be using it as a train.



Paperdiego on 29 March 2009
emilie autumn said:
Soriku said:
emilie autumn said:
Soriku said:
ClaudeLv250 said:
Link and Zelda probably found their new Hyrule. That was the whole point of being out in the ocean in the first place...

 

And abandoned the original Hyrule? :3

have you played the wind waker?, you haven't right or you just play games and read no dialogue, hyrule is underwater, dead, never to return, thats the beauty of the wind waker, finding a new hyrule, their hyrule, not the old one.

 

Of course I did. It's my favorite Zelda >_> Maybe I should've said the Hyrule not underwater.

Still, abandon that? :3 But finding a new Hyrule would be weird...did the godesses not flood another part of Hyrule? And for what reason?

 

you mean the islands, let me remember well, there are only 2 islands were humans have succesfully established themselves: dragon root island and the island were link lives, that world must have a population of 30 people, they can live of fish their whole life can they and they have to fullfil th ekings dying wish of finding the new hyrule.

 

it is never stated if the goddeses just flooded hyrule or if they also flooded the rest of the world, but it was inecesary to flood the whole world as the reason of flooding hyrule was to stop ganon and drow him with hyrule, so theres no need to flood the whole world

Windfall Island says HI..

and Dragon Roost Island was NOT inhabited by humans, the rito tribe lives there(Bird people).

and what doesnt make sense to me is that according to windwaker, Hyrule was flooded becasue Link never apeared.

Well if so then why in the same time line, after hyrule was flooded , did Link once again apear to defeat evil??

 

 



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lolita on 29 March 2009
ClaudeLv250 said:
Link and Zelda probably found their new Hyrule. That was the whole point of being out in the ocean in the first place...

This. I'm pretty sure ST is right after PH.



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Paperdiego on 29 March 2009
Blacksaber said:
I would have to say this game will be at the end one of the 2 time lines since the technology has never been seen before in any other one...

 

the steam boat existed in Phantom Hourglass so the Stream engine could exsist before, at the same time as, or after the Boat..

 



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NintendoMan on 29 March 2009

Its Zelda, as such the timeline is screwed up until nintendo informs us what it actually is therefore we just have to accept there is no ocean. Jst because its cel-shaded doesn't mean its a sequel or prequel to WW/PH. Could be a direct sequel to Twilight Princess for all we know.



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Demotruk on 29 March 2009

Wind Waker and Phantom Hourglass are the only games with somewhat strong steampunk elements, as such, I can only see this being a follow up to those.

Although it could be a dream again...



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Helios on 29 March 2009
makingmusic476 said:
gog85 said:
the story in Wind Waker is this:
- Ganondorf is defeated and imprisoned in the evil realm (Ocarina of Time)
- Ganondorf somehow escapes from the realm and starts causing havoc once again.
- everyone waited for Link to return but he didn't (because Zelda sent him back in time at the end of OoT)
- because the Hero of Time hadn't returnd, the King flooded everything to seal Hyrule away from Ganondorf.

we should be playing as the same Link from Wind Waker/Phantom Hourglass.

IMO they've finally found the NEW Hyrule they set out to find at the end of Wind Waker.

 

The entirety of Hyrule was left in ruin in the adult Link timeline of the Ocarina of Time.  There has yet to be another Zelda in this timeline, as far as I know.

Every Zelda since takes in the young Link timeline.  In fact, don't they mention in the Wind Waker that the King had Ganondorf arrested and then sealed off once once his evil plot was discoever in the young Link timeline?  After young Link returns to Princess Zelda in the young Link timeline and tells her what's gonna happen?

 

No, that's Twilight Princess, and what do you mean by "Hyrule was left in ruin in the adult Link timeline of the Ocarina of Time"? I think you need to play that game again, because the only thing ruined at the end was Ganon's Castle - Zelda even says that Hyrule will have peace again before she sends Link back to his own time.

As for Spirit Tracks, I'm guessing it will be a spiritual sequel to PH, much like PH was a spiritual sequel to LA/TMC.



Paperdiego on 29 March 2009
Helios said:
makingmusic476 said:
gog85 said:
the story in Wind Waker is this:
- Ganondorf is defeated and imprisoned in the evil realm (Ocarina of Time)
- Ganondorf somehow escapes from the realm and starts causing havoc once again.
- everyone waited for Link to return but he didn't (because Zelda sent him back in time at the end of OoT)
- because the Hero of Time hadn't returnd, the King flooded everything to seal Hyrule away from Ganondorf.

we should be playing as the same Link from Wind Waker/Phantom Hourglass.

IMO they've finally found the NEW Hyrule they set out to find at the end of Wind Waker.

 

The entirety of Hyrule was left in ruin in the adult Link timeline of the Ocarina of Time.  There has yet to be another Zelda in this timeline, as far as I know.

Every Zelda since takes in the young Link timeline.  In fact, don't they mention in the Wind Waker that the King had Ganondorf arrested and then sealed off once once his evil plot was discoever in the young Link timeline?  After young Link returns to Princess Zelda in the young Link timeline and tells her what's gonna happen?

 

No, that's Twilight Princess, and what do you mean by "Hyrule was left in ruin in the adult Link timeline of the Ocarina of Time"? I think you need to play that game again, because the only thing ruined at the end was Ganon's Castle - Zelda even says that Hyrule will have peace again before she sends Link back to his own time.

As for Spirit Tracks, I'm guessing it will be a spiritual sequel to PH, much like PH was a spiritual sequel to LA/TMC.

 

Phantom Hourglass WAS NOT a spiritual Sequal to links awakening, The Minish Cap or any other Zelda title.

The Legend of Zelda: Phantom Hourglass was a DIERECT sequal to The Legend of Zelda: The Windwaker.

It explains this at the begining of PH ands its even in the handbook i think

 



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