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Ail on 30 March 2009
outlawauron said:
NJ5 said:
Final-Fan said:
Why don't you consider Rock Band and Guitar Hero casual?

Or GTA4 for that matter...

You could also argue Mass Effect, Uncharted, and MGS 4 as shooters.

 

I beat MGS4 not killing a single enemy so I would argue it isn't a shooter...



PS3-Xbox360 gap : 1.5 millions and going up in PS3 favor !

PS3-Wii gap : 20 millions and going down !

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DMeisterJ on 30 March 2009

WOW!

Rol Brings it home again!


Good Work!



NJ5 on 30 March 2009
Ail said:
outlawauron said:
NJ5 said:
Final-Fan said:
Why don't you consider Rock Band and Guitar Hero casual?

Or GTA4 for that matter...

You could also argue Mass Effect, Uncharted, and MGS 4 as shooters.

 

I beat MGS4 not killing a single enemy so I would argue it isn't a shooter...

I'm not saying it's a shooter (or that it isn't), but there are plenty of shooters you can beat without killing any enemies (except maybe bosses).

 



My Mario Kart Wii friend code: 2707-1866-0957

Ail on 30 March 2009
NJ5 said:
Ail said:
outlawauron said:
NJ5 said:
Final-Fan said:
Why don't you consider Rock Band and Guitar Hero casual?

Or GTA4 for that matter...

You could also argue Mass Effect, Uncharted, and MGS 4 as shooters.

 

I beat MGS4 not killing a single enemy so I would argue it isn't a shooter...

I'm not saying it's a shooter (or that it isn't), but there are plenty of shooters you can beat without killing any enemies (except maybe bosses).

 

 

So basically your definition of a shooter is any game that has a gun in it then ? I guess DMC4 is a shooter too then....

 

Besides MGS4 actually rewards you for not shooting things, that's hardly  the case for a shooter ( where they want you to...shoot things (surprise?)).



PS3-Xbox360 gap : 1.5 millions and going up in PS3 favor !

PS3-Wii gap : 20 millions and going down !

NJ5 on 30 March 2009
Ail said:
NJ5 said:

I'm not saying it's a shooter (or that it isn't), but there are plenty of shooters you can beat without killing any enemies (except maybe bosses).

 

 

So basically your definition of a shooter is any game that has a gun in it then ?

Besides MGS4 actually rewards you for not shooting things, that's hardly  the case for a shooter ( where they want you to...shoot things (surprise?)).

I suppose you didn't notice the part where I said I wasn't claiming it either way?

My point was that the definition of a shooter that you implied is flawed.

 



My Mario Kart Wii friend code: 2707-1866-0957

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Thechalkblock on 30 March 2009
BrainBoxLtd said:

I wonder how many people will actually click on those links. =P

 

I did!



Ail on 30 March 2009
NJ5 said:
Ail said:
NJ5 said:

I'm not saying it's a shooter (or that it isn't), but there are plenty of shooters you can beat without killing any enemies (except maybe bosses).

 

 

So basically your definition of a shooter is any game that has a gun in it then ?

Besides MGS4 actually rewards you for not shooting things, that's hardly  the case for a shooter ( where they want you to...shoot things (surprise?)).

I suppose you didn't notice the part where I said I wasn't claiming it either way?

My point was that the definition of a shooter that you implied is flawed.

 

So what's your definition of a shooter ?

Mine would be a game where the main way to progress( and easiest) is to shoot the enemies put in your way....

 

 



PS3-Xbox360 gap : 1.5 millions and going up in PS3 favor !

PS3-Wii gap : 20 millions and going down !

NJ5 on 30 March 2009
Ail said:
NJ5 said:
Ail said:
NJ5 said:

I'm not saying it's a shooter (or that it isn't), but there are plenty of shooters you can beat without killing any enemies (except maybe bosses).

 

 

So basically your definition of a shooter is any game that has a gun in it then ?

Besides MGS4 actually rewards you for not shooting things, that's hardly  the case for a shooter ( where they want you to...shoot things (surprise?)).

I suppose you didn't notice the part where I said I wasn't claiming it either way?

My point was that the definition of a shooter that you implied is flawed.

 

So what's your definition of a shooter ?

Mine would be a game where the main way to progress( and easiest) is to shoot the enemies put in your way....

 

 

There are games which are hard to define and MGS4 may well be one of them. Some games span a few genres...

 



My Mario Kart Wii friend code: 2707-1866-0957

noname2200 on 31 March 2009
outlawauron said:

@ noname

Seriously? What are the 20 games better than NMH in 2008 on Wii? I'd like to know, because I can't see how.

Sorry y'all, but No More Heroes was a boring, repetetive, buggy mess. To me, it's like the Halo or Kirby series: I know full well that other people love the games, but damned if they don't bore the hell out of me. So it's not so much that there were 20 fantastic, AAA Wii games released in 2008, as that NMH was really, really mediocre.

 



Dazkarieh on 31 March 2009
noname2200 said:
outlawauron said:

@ noname

Seriously? What are the 20 games better than NMH in 2008 on Wii? I'd like to know, because I can't see how.

Sorry y'all, but No More Heroes was a boring, repetetive, buggy mess. To me, it's like the Halo or Kirby series: I know full well that other people love the games, but damned if they don't bore the hell out of me. So it's not so much that there were 20 fantastic, AAA Wii games released in 2008, as that NMH was really, really mediocre.

 

You should burn!