You are confusing the issue. If I didn't like a game the first time, chances are good I will not like it the second time, but almost no games are like that unless they are specifically remakes. Don't come at me with this Reducto Ad Absurdum crap.

I am talking about new games, which I have never played. Making a judgment about them before I play them would be foolish, because I am potentially depriving myself of something awesome.

Thread summary:

Scorned fanboy makes inflammatory thread to push his agenda, trashtalking of square enix ensues, kazs gets going to save the thread and the good guys spread common sense.

Now on topic - it's painfully obvious some of you haven't been gaming for long.

Anyways, just reiterating so it sinks: Square Enix main efforts are on the handhelds. Are you a SE fan? get a DS and a PSP for the price of a ps3 or a fully kitted 360 and enjoy their games. 

Oh the irony. One of my XBL friends, who isn't a fan of 50 Cent, was telling me how good that game is. Which brings me to the story, you can't truly know a game is garbage without giving it a shot.

I don't like card based RPGs. You'd think I'd hate Baten Kaitos but I actually enjoyed both games. The first one was flawed although surprising good. The second was superb thanks them stream lining the battle system and Nintendo localizing the game with competent voice actors. On the other hand on paper I should think Oblivion is excellent, I really enjoyed Morrowind. I didn't like Oblivion however, I found it boring. Final Fantasy X is a game I shouldn't have liked based on assumption. I'm not a Nomura/Kitase fan when it comes to Final Fantasy games but FFX is one of my favorites in the series. No one is omnipotent. You don't know what you feel about something unless you actually try it.

Feel the same for what it's worth.

Wow, this thread is still going?

Guys, the games don't seem to have the same charm they used to (for me anyways) and generate that same excitement they used to, but they are not really "bad" games. Take The Last Remnant for example.

SaGa Team is the best.

I loathe those in this thread who said they make no good games. They make some awesome battle systems.

Pick it up, install it on the 360 HDD and give it a try sometime.


I agree with Onyxmeth's point though. DS and PSP are where you may end up needing to go if you want your "quality" JRPG titles. Now if they would just hurry up already so I can play Sigma Harmonics. Possibly even another game like TWEWY.

Gee the PS3 is:

_ a money syphon for developpers

_ last in the console race and poised to stay as such

_ still way too expensive for the average customer after 3 years


and people wonder why Square is trying to jump ship?

The real question is why X360 and not Wii.... (answer would be because they based their whole creativity into graphics these past few years and well that is what they deliver now...)

@khuutra
Last Remnant sucked balls , YES!! i own a 360 and it was a dissapointing product that SE threw up on the 360 in less then a year
Did you even read the OP we are talkin about the crapped ass games theyve been making not wheter or not we have the time to play a new game every day .......then again you DO do reviews  dont ya ??!! Why dont you review every SE game that has come out since XII MR "Dont pass judgement on games you never played " and tell us of how wonderful these rushed watered down games are.

*EDIT* and dont use my library as an excuse for anything, i have over 300 games and its a pain to update

I don't review them because I haven't played them. Clearly.

I'm not even arguing about the quality of these games. I'm saying that one cannot judge them without playing them. That's the whole of it.

Because all SE games released so far probably were green-lighted at least two-three years ago, before anyone knew wether the Wii streak would last or not.

It's actually the first 8 people.