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jlauro said:
Sharky54 said:
Darc Requiem said:
Sharky54 said:
It really depends on how long its active. If they pull it out before it reaches 140 million then no it won't. Nintendo likes to make people move on to the new stuff faster.

No, Nintendo likes to support their platforms as long as possible. The GBA was delayed repeatedly because the GBC was selling so well. Nintendo supports their platforms as long as consumers do.

 

 

Consoles are a different beast good sir.

 

I am with Darc on this one.  Nintendo does not like to move people on to new stuff if they don't have to.  They like to milk platforms with minor changes to draw out it's life as long as possible.  Look at the DS, basically the same thing for 3 models to stretch it out.  Same thing with consoles, they will try to milk the market with colors, or other minor updates.  Consoles are the same for Nintendo, it's just that sometimes the competition doesn't let them stay with the same model as long...  Right now, that is far from an issue with the Wii...

 

And when microsoft and Sony announce their new systems with motion detecting, you reaaaly think that Nintendo wont be lock step with them? As soon as their next console comes out, they will stop supporting the wii. Look what happened with the gamecube and xbox. I have news for you, nintendo didnt have anyone to compete with in handhelds. They do in consoles. 

 

There was no need for a GBA if the ONLY handheld anyone bought was the GBC. Why even come out with new stuff if you make a huge profit off something now. Only reason would be because someone else threatens to steal your profits. It is that simple, when the next Nintendo console comes out, the wii will die soon after. Nintendo likes to do that.



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Wii will not outsell PS2.



 

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Yeah, Darc is correct.

and I still want the Wii to reach 50% marketshare. Not to see it own the other consoles, but just to see the number "50.0%". It has been stuck at 48.9% for more than a month now.



I agree the wii will dies out soon after the next console from Nintendo.

However, I do not agree that the next console will come out just because... It will likely be fully bc, and just have new features. Also, if they continue to outsell Sony's and Microsoft's new console they will delay releasing a new console until their sales slow.



Sharky54 said:
jlauro said:
Sharky54 said:
Darc Requiem said:
Sharky54 said:
It really depends on how long its active. If they pull it out before it reaches 140 million then no it won't. Nintendo likes to make people move on to the new stuff faster.

No, Nintendo likes to support their platforms as long as possible. The GBA was delayed repeatedly because the GBC was selling so well. Nintendo supports their platforms as long as consumers do.

 

 

Consoles are a different beast good sir.

 

I am with Darc on this one.  Nintendo does not like to move people on to new stuff if they don't have to.  They like to milk platforms with minor changes to draw out it's life as long as possible.  Look at the DS, basically the same thing for 3 models to stretch it out.  Same thing with consoles, they will try to milk the market with colors, or other minor updates.  Consoles are the same for Nintendo, it's just that sometimes the competition doesn't let them stay with the same model as long...  Right now, that is far from an issue with the Wii...

 

And when microsoft and Sony announce their new systems with motion detecting, you reaaaly think that Nintendo wont be lock step with them? As soon as their next console comes out, they will stop supporting the wii. Look what happened with the gamecube and xbox. I have news for you, nintendo didnt have anyone to compete with in handhelds. They do in consoles. 

 

There was no need for a GBA if the ONLY handheld anyone bought was the GBC. Why even come out with new stuff if you make a huge profit off something now. Only reason would be because someone else threatens to steal your profits. It is that simple, when the next Nintendo console comes out, the wii will die soon after. Nintendo likes to do that.

First the GBA sold over 80 million units and was still selling very strongly but Nintendo wanted to introduce the DS, with it's new features, and the success of the DS killed the GBA. The GBA had no competition and Nintendo could have kept supporting the console but they saw the future in the DS.

Secondly, Sony stop supporting the PSX when the PS2 launched but 3rd party publishers,Squaresoft/Square Enix, EA, and others, continued to support the PSX until 2003 or 2004. This is also happening with the PS2. Sony is no longer supporting the PS2 but third party publishers are still supporting the console. Anytime there is still a significant demand for a console, third parties will continue to support it. There were still third parties supporting the GBA until Nintendo stop manufacturing the console. This will happen with the Wii as long as the consumer demand is there.

Thirdly, what makes you so sure that Microsoft and Sony will have motion sensing controllers? It's not a given. Besides, Wii motion plus is just on the horizone, a few months away, this will reinvent the Wii remote and put Sony and Microsoft at a disadvantage. What new features will they,Sony and Microsoft, introduce or will they introduce any new features at all? Nintendo is in the drivers seat and developers are already working with the technology to develop one to one movements in games. Nintendo could be working on the next evolution of the Wii remote or they may not. It will be a gamble for Microsoft and/or Sony because they may introduce a motion sensing controller that is similar in function to the Wii remote with the motion plus fuctionality for their next console while Nintendo as a newer evolution of the design that can do things that their controller can not. This puts their console at a disadvantage for the generation and it would be very difficult to overcome a disadvantage such as that.

 



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Sharky54 said:
jlauro said:
Sharky54 said:
Darc Requiem said:
Sharky54 said:
It really depends on how long its active. If they pull it out before it reaches 140 million then no it won't. Nintendo likes to make people move on to the new stuff faster.

No, Nintendo likes to support their platforms as long as possible. The GBA was delayed repeatedly because the GBC was selling so well. Nintendo supports their platforms as long as consumers do.

 

 

Consoles are a different beast good sir.

 

I am with Darc on this one.  Nintendo does not like to move people on to new stuff if they don't have to.  They like to milk platforms with minor changes to draw out it's life as long as possible.  Look at the DS, basically the same thing for 3 models to stretch it out.  Same thing with consoles, they will try to milk the market with colors, or other minor updates.  Consoles are the same for Nintendo, it's just that sometimes the competition doesn't let them stay with the same model as long...  Right now, that is far from an issue with the Wii...

 

And when microsoft and Sony announce their new systems with motion detecting, you reaaaly think that Nintendo wont be lock step with them? As soon as their next console comes out, they will stop supporting the wii. Look what happened with the gamecube and xbox. I have news for you, nintendo didnt have anyone to compete with in handhelds. They do in consoles. 

 

There was no need for a GBA if the ONLY handheld anyone bought was the GBC. Why even come out with new stuff if you make a huge profit off something now. Only reason would be because someone else threatens to steal your profits. It is that simple, when the next Nintendo console comes out, the wii will die soon after. Nintendo likes to do that.

You may want to do a little research. In Japan the Gameboy line was getting several competent competitors. Nintendo was expected the GBP/GBC sales to slow down because of more advanced competition. The GBC's hardware was essentially an NES. The Wonderswan, Neo Geo Pocket, etc.  were more advanced and the GBC was little more than a small revision to the original Gameboys hardware. The GBC sold like mad to consumers however and essentially delayed the GBA's launch by three years. The GBA's hardware was finished in 1997 and the system didn't launched until 2001.

As far as home consoles go, both the N64 and the Gamecube could have been killed far sooner based on their hardware sales. However they were both profitable and Nintendo still supported them for five years. In fact, when it comes to home consoles Nintendo waits at least 5 years before launching new hardware and they only do so when their competitors release new hardware. The SNES was launched after the TG-16 and Genesis/Mega Drive, N64 was launched after the PS1/Saturn/PC-FX, the Gamecube launched after the DC/PS2 along side the X-box, and the Wii launched after the 360 along side the PS3. The only hardware Nintendo has ever shown poor support for was the Virtual Boy.



Market leaders always have the most shelf life, this gen will be no different. NES sales lingered into the SNES era, SNEs into the PS1, and so on. Technology never saved anyone, it didn't save the N64, the xbox and GC from having a shorter lifespan than the ps2. Wasn't the NES supported for like 20 yrs? Wii is the nes of this generation.

If it is selling like this before any pricecut, what will happen when it gets one? or new colors or bundles? Doesn't the console get most of its sales when it retails at the "sweet spot" of 200$? The scary thing is I don't think Wii has peaked yet, less than 3 yrs old remember this, and it has eclipsed the SNES, less than 3 yrs old and it will eclipse the NES. 100 million is a shoe in. It will outsell the ps2.



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If the Wii sells more than 20 million in 2009 (as defined above) Arius Dion wins and gets to control Slimebeast's sig for 1 month.

Of course Wii will outsell PS2. Just like you predicted Gameboy will outsell PS2 but whatever makes you Nintendo fans happy :)



Gameboy came out first..but yeah. And DS will outsell the ps2 also.



Bet between Slimbeast and Arius Dion about Wii sales 2009:


If the Wii sells less than 20 million in 2009 (as defined by VGC sales between week ending 3d Jan 2009 to week ending 4th Jan 2010) Slimebeast wins and get to control Arius Dion's sig for 1 month.

If the Wii sells more than 20 million in 2009 (as defined above) Arius Dion wins and gets to control Slimebeast's sig for 1 month.

Darc Requiem said:
Sharky54 said:
jlauro said:
Sharky54 said:
Darc Requiem said:
Sharky54 said:
It really depends on how long its active. If they pull it out before it reaches 140 million then no it won't. Nintendo likes to make people move on to the new stuff faster.

No, Nintendo likes to support their platforms as long as possible. The GBA was delayed repeatedly because the GBC was selling so well. Nintendo supports their platforms as long as consumers do.

 

 

Consoles are a different beast good sir.

 

I am with Darc on this one.  Nintendo does not like to move people on to new stuff if they don't have to.  They like to milk platforms with minor changes to draw out it's life as long as possible.  Look at the DS, basically the same thing for 3 models to stretch it out.  Same thing with consoles, they will try to milk the market with colors, or other minor updates.  Consoles are the same for Nintendo, it's just that sometimes the competition doesn't let them stay with the same model as long...  Right now, that is far from an issue with the Wii...

 

And when microsoft and Sony announce their new systems with motion detecting, you reaaaly think that Nintendo wont be lock step with them? As soon as their next console comes out, they will stop supporting the wii. Look what happened with the gamecube and xbox. I have news for you, nintendo didnt have anyone to compete with in handhelds. They do in consoles. 

 

There was no need for a GBA if the ONLY handheld anyone bought was the GBC. Why even come out with new stuff if you make a huge profit off something now. Only reason would be because someone else threatens to steal your profits. It is that simple, when the next Nintendo console comes out, the wii will die soon after. Nintendo likes to do that.

You may want to do a little research. In Japan the Gameboy line was getting several competent competitors. Nintendo was expected the GBP/GBC sales to slow down because of more advanced competition. The GBC's hardware was essentially an NES. The Wonderswan, Neo Geo Pocket, etc.  were more advanced and the GBC was little more than a small revision to the original Gameboys hardware. The GBC sold like mad to consumers however and essentially delayed the GBA's launch by three years. The GBA's hardware was finished in 1997 and the system didn't launched until 2001.

As far as home consoles go, both the N64 and the Gamecube could have been killed far sooner based on their hardware sales. However they were both profitable and Nintendo still supported them for five years. In fact, when it comes to home consoles Nintendo waits at least 5 years before launching new hardware and they only do so when their competitors release new hardware. The SNES was launched after the TG-16 and Genesis/Mega Drive, N64 was launched after the PS1/Saturn/PC-FX, the Gamecube launched after the DC/PS2 along side the X-box, and the Wii launched after the 360 along side the PS3. The only hardware Nintendo has ever shown poor support for was the Virtual Boy.

 

So Japan is the only place they sell handhelds and consoles? I am sorry I had no idea. I thought the outlook for the ENTIRE world would drive their choices. But of course, it makese sense that just one country would. You want to do research next time sir. When a new nintendo system comes out, they give up on the old one. It is a simple fact of life.