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twesterm said:

I should start with I like BluRay and I buy BluRay when possible but:

  • It's cheaper-- Your argument is just bad.  There are huge advantages with the PS3 and PS2 or Xbox and Xbox 360, there are not huge advantages with the move from DVD to BluRay, especially ones that justify the price.  Like I said, I like BluRay because I like shiny new things sometimes but most people can't notice the difference and even less notice it when you have an upscaled DVD (even I can barely tell the difference).  So yeah, to a large amount of people it's hard to justify spending $10-20 extra on a movie that only works in (likely) one of their players and that is only marginally better.
  • Which brings me to a point that didn't get listed DVD's are more portable-- It's hard to find something nowadays that doesn't play DVD's but how many things play BluRay?
  • Up-Conversion-- As I said, to most people, it really does make it just as good as BluRay.  You can see the difference but you've been trained to see the difference.  MY parents couldn't tell a normal DVD from a BluRay movie and my wife the same age as me (27) can't tell the difference from an upscaled DVD and a BluRay.  We as gamers can see these things, other people don't see them as easily.
  • Not all movies are available-- This is more of an annoyance and one that bothers me.  I want to support BluRay but there are so many movies (even new ones) that don't come out on it.  It sucks.  As long as this keeps happening it will continue to be impossible for BluRay to really gain a heavy hold.  Why would I spend so much money on a BluRay player when my favorite movies coming out don't take advantage of that player when the much cheaper DVD player would?
  • Stop-Gap-- It could last for the next 12 years or the next big thing might come along.  Things like Netflix and movie streaming are becoming really popular.  There's no garauntee that BluRay will be as popular for DVD's and for as long.

So yeah, it's fine to love you some BluRay movies but don't let fanboy your blinders keep you from seeing the actual problems with BluRay.

-edit-

fanboy was probably the wrong word since it almost sounds like I'm calling you Sony faboy when I'm not, I mean BluRay fanboy.

I'll just start by saying its pretty naive to accuse somebody that you don't know of being a fanboy because their views differ from yours.  I may have strong feelings, but to say that I have fanboy blinders on is just fucking wrong. 

I don't know if you read the IGN article or not, but the author's arguments were paper thin, kind of like yours.  I don't want to derail this thread, I've made my points and I stand by them.

 



Thanks for the input, Jeff.

 

 

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Squilliam said:
I don't care for Blu. It doesn't appeal to me to purchase discs which I cannot play in any of my 5 other DVD players I have scattered around.

TBH discs themselves are a PITA. I want to store all my movies on my 4 TB HDD space which is far more convenient than storing boxes everywhere.

This was the saying of VHS owners as well.  Some people just have to be dragged into this kicking and screaming.  It's the way history has been with this sort of thing.

 



heruamon said:
Seems that DVD is going to be the #1 format for the next 2-3 years at least...that's a LONG time for brd to find it's footing, imho...

It's actually excellent for a recession bigger than the "Great Depression".

 



dbot said:
twesterm said:

I should start with I like BluRay and I buy BluRay when possible but:

  • It's cheaper-- Your argument is just bad.  There are huge advantages with the PS3 and PS2 or Xbox and Xbox 360, there are not huge advantages with the move from DVD to BluRay, especially ones that justify the price.  Like I said, I like BluRay because I like shiny new things sometimes but most people can't notice the difference and even less notice it when you have an upscaled DVD (even I can barely tell the difference).  So yeah, to a large amount of people it's hard to justify spending $10-20 extra on a movie that only works in (likely) one of their players and that is only marginally better.
  • Which brings me to a point that didn't get listed DVD's are more portable-- It's hard to find something nowadays that doesn't play DVD's but how many things play BluRay?
  • Up-Conversion-- As I said, to most people, it really does make it just as good as BluRay.  You can see the difference but you've been trained to see the difference.  MY parents couldn't tell a normal DVD from a BluRay movie and my wife the same age as me (27) can't tell the difference from an upscaled DVD and a BluRay.  We as gamers can see these things, other people don't see them as easily.
  • Not all movies are available-- This is more of an annoyance and one that bothers me.  I want to support BluRay but there are so many movies (even new ones) that don't come out on it.  It sucks.  As long as this keeps happening it will continue to be impossible for BluRay to really gain a heavy hold.  Why would I spend so much money on a BluRay player when my favorite movies coming out don't take advantage of that player when the much cheaper DVD player would?
  • Stop-Gap-- It could last for the next 12 years or the next big thing might come along.  Things like Netflix and movie streaming are becoming really popular.  There's no garauntee that BluRay will be as popular for DVD's and for as long.

So yeah, it's fine to love you some BluRay movies but don't let fanboy your blinders keep you from seeing the actual problems with BluRay.

-edit-

fanboy was probably the wrong word since it almost sounds like I'm calling you Sony faboy when I'm not, I mean BluRay fanboy.

I'll just start by saying its pretty naive to accuse somebody that you don't know of being a fanboy because their views differ from yours.  I may have strong feelings, but to say that I have fanboy blinders on is just fucking wrong. 

I don't know if you read the IGN article or not, but the author's arguments were paper thin, kind of like yours.  I don't want to derail this thread, I've made my points and I stand by them.

 

Like I said, fanboy was probably the wrong word and even BluRay fanboy was wrong.  I was simply meaning that you look at any negative point brought up against BluRay and you call it paper thin because you don't want to see the actual negatives or even admit BluRay does have negatives and those are some of them.  True, I could be wrong, but some of those arguments (the ones I pointed out, I left the actual bad ones out) do make sense.

I didn't read the article, I only read your comment and commented on that.  If you want to call my arguments paper thin, please tell me why.  Don't just throw a hissy fit and then say you're done.

 



Ascended_Saiyan3 said:
Squilliam said:
I don't care for Blu. It doesn't appeal to me to purchase discs which I cannot play in any of my 5 other DVD players I have scattered around.

TBH discs themselves are a PITA. I want to store all my movies on my 4 TB HDD space which is far more convenient than storing boxes everywhere.

This was the saying of VHS owners as well.  Some people just have to be dragged into this kicking and screaming.  It's the way history has been with this sort of thing.

 

Computers, car entertainment systems, laptops, other tv's.

 



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I dont remember any resistance to DVD's

I just remember people collectively saying thank god and Blockbusters couldnt wait to regear for the new format.

BluRay really is just DVD 1.5



Hmmm. Don't really care much for Blu Ray, it's come out way too soon, VHS lasted a very long time and I'm sure peeps want it to be the same with DVD. No one wants to buy their favourite movies again in Blu Ray and there might be a one or two Sony movie's you can't get on DVD but how many movies can you still not get on Blu ray? I don't think Blu Ray will be anywhere near as succesful as DVD. Super fast down load speeds on massive TB hard drives at affordable prices is where it's at over the next few years which will undoubtly hurt Blu Ray's success.



Upscaled DVD looks grainey on my LCD. Some people say they can't tell the difference. Some people cant tell the difference between a bird and a dildo. They are blind.

@ Twesterm: What's with the agenda? Banning people for talking about RROD, calling people fanboys because they enjoy bluray? kk



To be honest and simple i dont think the bluray is doomed i think its better than DVD (of course it is) , it does alot of upgrades on DVD , like how DVDs did to CD-roms. so its really a goody goody format, we might see them in cars once they get cheaper, that would be awesome. and to think that the Disks themselves are very durable , thats a very good thing to me atleast.



I know it has been said before, but downloads are the future for the technophile. For the rest DVD is good enough.

I personally haven't bought a DVD or CD this century (got a few as gifts). HD is easy to get (legally) online, heck I barely watch TV with things like Hulu. Discs are overpriced, and there are few films worth actually owning. Plus I like not having to track down a disc when I want to watch something.

For me Blu-Ray died before it was even born, along with DVD and CD.



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