Smeags said: Well, since Euphoria already did an awesome job on the YoY sales (thanks for making my job easier ), here's the WoW sales: Console This Week Last Week 197,305 185,338 150,713 165,201 103,027 84,076 98,601 96,218 63,472 60,995 Wii: +14,488 360: -2,383 PSP: -2,477 DS: -11,967 PS3: -18,951

Nice chart...although I think you got the numbers in reverse...lol still it is all good.

@Euphoria14

Nice number analysis! Keep up with the civil convo.

See?! I knew a tissue would solve all our problems.

@ Euphoria you're wrong on the price cuts. It would have been $100 if the 20GB was released in any decent number. We've been over this before in other threads. It was almost impossible to get the 20GB SKU and the sales ratio between the 60/20GB prove it.

Alright, but then were do people pull this $200 number from? This is something I just never understood.

High end SKU is still $100 less than original high end price and low end is still $100 than original low end price.

PS3 is still running a 2 SKU show.

@pakidan101

Thanks.

Europhia is owning the trhead.

Umm, I don't know where these claims of Killzone moving 70-80k PS3 consoles are coming from. Let's look at this by region:

Week of February 21 (the week before Killzone launch)
Others: 84k
America: 55k
(Japan: 16k)
Others + America Total = 139k

Week of February 28 (Killzone launch week)
Others: 103k
America: 66k
(Japan: 36k)
Others + America Total = 169k

Week of March 7 (current week)
Others: 84k

We seem to be exactly back where we were two weeks ago, with no discernible change in Others sales. Of course it's possible we'll see something this week in America, but that remains to be decided. Obviously we leave Japan out of this, because Killzone has not been released in Japan as yet, and trying to credit the Yakuza boost to Killzone would be inappropriate. So the number of hardware units moved by Killzone over the previous weekly average easily works out to:

169k - 139k = 30k PS3s (one week boost of 20%)

I leave it up to the individual posters to react to that as they may.

PS Errr, the PS3 absolutely received a European price cut in November 2007. Go look it up if you don't believe me. And if you're going to play the "PS3 has only had one price cut!" card, you might want to mention that a $500 PS3 at launch had a lot more features included in it (most notably PS2 backwards compatibility) than the current $500 PS3 does.

EXACTLY !!!

The PS3 has had price drops mate, not Sony official price drops but the console is now cheaper then what it is. If you shop around you can dind some nice deals like i mentioned, the KZ2 bundle with LBP for £269 is a price cut of types. If you look at

http://www.findprice.co.uk/fp/Games_Consoles/Compare-prices-Sony-PLAYSTATION-3-Console-80-GB-Model/1849355/product.htm

you see very few if any are listed as the Sony required £299. Play has it for £249.49. £50 ($100) cheaper then requested.

So in terms of official drops from Sony i can't even remember the last time there was one of those! But stores are not stupid, in these times of recession they know they have to cut costs themselves or nobody will buy them. Like i was in Blockbuster the other day and i saw a PS3 with a choice of 3 Blu-Ray films and a game for £275. These are the gimmick deals that are needed to shift consoles. So PS3 has not stayed the same for 2 years as you suggest, it is cheaper now and has a lot more varied variations of deals to choose from. Like if i had not already got a PS3 i might go for this deal from Amazon. You get a 80GB PS3, a hdmi cable a choice of any game and if you pay £10 more you get another game of your choice, all for the great price of.....£289

http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/feature.html?ie=UTF8&docId=1000211123&pf_rd_m=A3P5ROKL5A1OLE&pf_rd_s=left-1&pf_rd_r=12MNB4E9S7BYGYSTW3MF&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=465114933&pf_rd_i=300703

So there are cheaper PS3's out there then what you suggest, and what Sony want you to pay, just have to look for them :) 

I think it's easy to be civil with those who share the same beliefs... seems like most people so far have agreed with you.

I for one don't think the PS3 is dying or trending towards destruction. I do however think the numerous SKU's (including not just hard-drive changes but also lack of backward compatibility and USB slots found on the original) and price cuts that have occurred, speak to how desperate Sony has been in the past to make the PS3 a viable competitor.

Today, as the sales sort out, I think any week where the gain in differential between the PS3 and the 360 is slightly negative or flat, Sony would consider a win. I also think if I had said 3 years ago that Sony, and PS3 fans would be happy just to stay even or close to the 360 in sales, regardless of price, I would've been burned at the stake for heresy.

I hope this doesn't hurt too much.

From last week.

It sold more than you think in the US. Maybe not a HUGE amount but definitely several thousand more at least.

I posted this in another thread and I am pretty sure someone posted it here.

 

Considering how every single console and handheld dropped from the previous week in the US are you implying that without Killzone 2 the PS3 would have been the only one to not decrease? I would say that is good news for the PS3.

If your not implying that then you would have to assume the Killzone 2 boost was actually more than just 13k.

 

Thanks to Smeags for the charts.

Console	Last Week	This Week
	240,440	168,205
	146,125	115,117
	94,783	76,794
	54,718	66,003
	51,760	46,549

PS3: +11,285
PSP: -5,211
360: -17,989
DS: -31,008
Wii: -72,235

I know it is not 13k, it is 11,285, but that is the number the person I was responding to used in that other thread. He was talking about WW. Which I still think wasn't 13k but whatever.

Also if I am not mistaken, didn't sales drop across the board for the other consoles in Europe+Others as well?

It is pretty easy to figure out really.

It is one of two choices.

#1. PS3 was the only console that would have not dropped in sales over the 2 territories that week.

If you don't agree with that, which you shouldn't, lol.

#2. KZ2 boost was bigger than people give credit for.

These numbers were figured out assuming PS3 WoW sales would have ONLY dropped by half of what 360 dropped by had KZ2 not been released that week.