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Forums - Microsoft - I repeat... Griffball is why Halo 3 is king of the FPS!

JaggedSac on 02 March 2009

Grifball is not a mod. It is using the code that shipped with Halo 3 to create a different match type. Just like rocket race, etc. Very simple to do.



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richardhutnik on 02 March 2009
AE86 said:
richardhutnik said:

Let's look at Griffball a second, and it shows why Halo 3 is still king of the FPS on consoles:

1. Griffball originated from the series Red vs Blue.  As a throwaway line by one of the characters, it became a full-blown mod, with a following.  The following was so extensive that it the latest expansion pack for Halo will contain its own Griffball court.  The fact that Halo has its own series on the Web is a tribute to the broadness of the cultural impact Halo has had.  Due to an unintended design "feature" of Halo, it enabled animation to be shot, making human faction characters look like they are speaking.  And this led to Red vs Blue.

2. Griffball is about as different from Halo 3 normal play as you can get.  It is a football/soccer game with teams and strategies and so on.  It is yet another unintended byproduct of what Bungie came up with.

 

So, when a game is able to produce something like Griffball, as a FPS, then maybe we can talk about that game supplanting Halo as king, or being a Halo killer.  This new FPS would have to be able to have its own culture, lend to mods, and go to the broadness that Halo 3 did.  And it would need to do it on a console.  And the stakes just got upped with the new map mod pack coming out.

 

So what you're saying is that UT3 is better than Halo 3? Check.

UT3 doesn't have a cartoon series based on it the way Halo does with Red vs Blue.  It isn't just the mods, and having a number of them, it is the fact that Griffball exists and how it came about.


Also, I am speaking in term of CONSOLES here.  Sure, PC gaming gets a bunch of mods and moddable games, but they don't have the same impact that Halo 3 has had.

 



JaggedSac on 02 March 2009

Also, the way Halo 3 maps and game types are structured, modifications made using foundry do not require downloads to the hard drive. That is how Bungie is able to push different game types and map variations into playlists without any user action necessary. Very transparent to the end user.



richardhutnik on 02 March 2009

Jagged, you mean Forge, or is Foundary something new they are coming out with? Latest thing I know is that the new expansion they are coming out with will have a much more extensive map editor. They are also adding a Griffball arena to that map.

My mentioning about Griffball touched on two parts to Halo that have made it the top FPS on consoles. One of them is the Red vs Blue and culture it built around the game. This culture is so extensive, it led to the whole 7-11 and Mountain Dew promotions. Secondarily is the community working with Forge creating all these new game modes for the game.  Griffball is an example of how much Halo 3 has gone from its original design.

So, I was saying, for a console FPS to be a "Halo Killer" and supplant Halo as king, it would have to do both. Griffball is just a prime example of this.



SnesTea on 02 March 2009

Grifball is awesome. Makes for a great laugh.



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S.T.A.G.E. on 02 March 2009

This is what Griffball does to KZ2.



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thekitchensink on 03 March 2009

Incorrect. Zombies mode is what makes Halo the king of FPS! Sure, every FPS has a zombies mode now (Call of Duty, Resistance 2), but how many:

1. Are so damn customizable (Slow, tough zombies? Fast, one-hit-kill zombies? Last survivor has infinite ammo?)

2. Actually switch you to the zombie team when you die

3. Let you cruise around killing zombies in a Warthog? (Best vehicle ever in a video game, btw)



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Sharky54 on 03 March 2009

UT2004 has a zombie mod. It is very wonderful. So halo3 fails to beat UT there also ;)



S.T.A.G.E. on 03 March 2009
Sharky54 said:
UT2004 has a zombie mod. It is very wonderful. So halo3 fails to beat UT there also ;)

 

We're talking about console shooters bub. Try again. :)



XxXProphecyXxX on 03 March 2009

COD waw has zombie mod... whats so special about it??? shoots zombies ZOMG BEST FPS EVER -_-