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Thechalkblock said:
toastboy44562 said:
no because they want it to come out on the system that will sell more copies...

 

You know that games on Wii have a lot more potential to sell a lot as long as the game has appeal, right? Wii has almost 50% of the marketshare.

 

So you are assuming that if third parties started to support massively the Wii the Wii software sales would increase tremendously because otherwise you suddenly have a lot more people fighting for a share of the same pie.........



PS3-Xbox360 gap : 1.5 millions and going up in PS3 favor !

PS3-Wii gap : 20 millions and going down !

Ail said:
Thechalkblock said:
toastboy44562 said:
no because they want it to come out on the system that will sell more copies...

 

You know that games on Wii have a lot more potential to sell a lot as long as the game has appeal, right? Wii has almost 50% of the marketshare.

 

So you are assuming that if third parties started to support massively the Wii the Wii software sales would increase tremendously because otherwise you suddenly have a lot more people fighting for a share of the same pie.........

 

No I just meant that with a userbase so large I would think good third party titles on the Wii, with appeal, could sell as well as third party PS360 titles.



Thechalkblock said:
Ail said:
Thechalkblock said:
toastboy44562 said:
no because they want it to come out on the system that will sell more copies...

 

You know that games on Wii have a lot more potential to sell a lot as long as the game has appeal, right? Wii has almost 50% of the marketshare.

 

So you are assuming that if third parties started to support massively the Wii the Wii software sales would increase tremendously because otherwise you suddenly have a lot more people fighting for a share of the same pie.........

 

No I just meant that with a userbase so large I would think good third party titles on the Wii, with appeal, could sell as well as third party PS360 titles.

 

 And they would eat the sales of others games, either Nintendo's game or the shovelware that cost little to produce and sells decently...

 



PS3-Xbox360 gap : 1.5 millions and going up in PS3 favor !

PS3-Wii gap : 20 millions and going down !

Wait a minute...

Did Rol just make a serious thread? I can't see that offending anyone, I'm afraid you failed on this one



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Bodhesatva said:

A lot of this strikes me as fluff, Rol, and pretty circuitous.

However, the core idea does ring true to me: many game developers seem to be making games for each other and not for consumers.

The premiere example of this is the way the review industry works. We all know how much pressure these reviewers get from major publishers, yes? The best example is that Ubisoft no longer works (or worked) with EGM/1up because of their Assassin's Creed review. Sony also will not work with them on their sports titles. These companies strong arm the reviewers all the time.

And at the exact same time they are performing strong arm tactics, these companies are heavily relying on metacritic to judge their own games, often apparently offering bonuses to developers who get high review scores.

See the problem this? It's like a guy clapping himself on the back.  Guy A pushes Guy B to give him good marks, then the score Guy B gives Guy A gets Guy A a raise. Now that Guy A has more money, he can pressure Guy B harder to give him even better marks, and so forth. I'd like to call such a phenomenon a "circle jerk," because that really is an apt phrase for this situation, even if the phrase is more crude than I typically prefer. 

It's completely out of hand.

 

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Kantor said:
Wait a minute...

Did Rol just make a serious thread? I can't see that offending anyone, I'm afraid you failed on this one

 

Yeah, I was looking for hints but it seems my reading comprehension failed me. Can someone point out the joke?



Galaki said:
Kantor said:
Wait a minute...

Did Rol just make a serious thread? I can't see that offending anyone, I'm afraid you failed on this one

 

Yeah, I was looking for hints but it seems my reading comprehension failed me. Can someone point out the joke?

I don't see it. Rol made a serious post.

I'm scared



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Thechalkblock said:
toastboy44562 said:
no because they want it to come out on the system that will sell more copies...

 

You know that games on Wii have a lot more potential to sell a lot as long as the game has appeal, right? Wii has almost 50% of the marketshare.

 

you said it well... almost 50%... it has vgchartz numbers say 48.9%... meaning that ps360 has 51.1%... i wold prefer to program to an more advance platform with 51% rather to an "older platform" with 49% of market share... that alone... if you think that 1st party are the top sellers in the 49% market share platform and 3rd party dont have much room to get big there... they whisely chose the 51% platfrom....



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sergiodaly said:

you said it well... almost 50%... it has vgchartz numbers say 48.9%... meaning that ps360 has 51.1%... i wold prefer to program to an more advance platform with 51% rather to an "older platform" with 49% of market share... that alone... if you think that 1st party are the top sellers in the 49% market share platform and 3rd party dont have much room to get big there... they whisely chose the 51% platfrom....

 

Let's do rough math.

An HD games cost 2x to make than a Wii game.

Having on both platform (PS3 and Xbox 360) means addition cost. Add another 50%.

So, let's say the Wii game cost 10M to make.

Then, in order to get that 51% pie, it will cost 30M.