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Khuutra said:
Bitmap Frogs said:

Most eulas/tos use "I agree" for the yes box. So you have already agreed to them. You are unable to "disagree", because if you do that's when the suspensions/bans will come.

But we are arguing semantics here.

Semantics are a pain, guys, totally not worth it.

I think both of you know what the other is saying. You can be against a rule but still agree to abide by it.

 

Yeah =)





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nightsurge said:

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Saying "I am a parent" does not imply sex because parents can adobt, and also it is pretty common that when you think of a parent, you don't think of mom and pop banging away.  Sheesh....

According to Freud, not only you do, but you'd like to take your pop's or mom's place. And Amaericans, being the people that spend most in the world for psychoanalysis, should know it better than everyone else.  So, established that Americans are the people in the world most aware that they want to bang with mom and pop, what's all this fuss about gays and lesbians?

 



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At least they're wearing protection.

 

slightly more on-topic:

There was just a post on kotaku with a response of sorts from Microsoft, claiming that they're looking into ways to allow gamers to express themselves but without offending others ... or something to that tune:

 

http://kotaku.com/5160677/microsoft-looking-to-change-xbox-live-sexual-discrimination

 

Personally I think this is everyone's fault. We get way too uptight about sex.



foont said:

 

At least they're wearing protection.

 

slightly more on-topic:

There was just a post on kotaku with a response of sorts from Microsoft, claiming that they're looking into ways to allow gamers to express themselves but without offending others ... or something to that tune:

 

http://kotaku.com/5160677/microsoft-looking-to-change-xbox-live-sexual-discrimination

 

Personally I think this is everyone's fault. We get way too uptight about sex.

While this is true, I sympathize with Microsoft not wanting to let Live be turned into some kind of dating service.

....Though that does have potential...



@ Khuutra

Absolutely. It's certainly not the intended use of the Live service or anything...

Of course, people do tend to try to turn everything into a dating service anyway. Take the internet for example: it went from a place for highly-trained university professors to exchange pornographic photographs to a place where people never miss the opportunity ask "a/s/l?"

I guess that's why Nintendo gave us Friend Codes instead of Make-Out Codes. To protect us from ourselves.


Which brings me to another question: does anyone know if Sony or Nintendo have similar username policies? I'm guessing they probably do, but I'm curious to know if there are any specific cases that came up. Is it too late to name my Wii Poonmaster78869?



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This thread is still going on? why?



Xen said:
This thread is still going on? why?

Lesbians.

 



badgenome said:
Xen said:
This thread is still going on? why?

Lesbians.

 

Hmm, that's a legit reason for me =P

 



http://www.stepto.com/Lists/Posts/Post.aspx?ID=530

Xbox LIVE policy and Gamertags/Profiles Redux

There’s been a ton of commentary on a Consumerist post about Theresa, an Xbox member who was suspended (not banned) from Xbox LIVE over expression of her sexual orientation in her profile. I don’t know the particulars, because the Consumerist article doesn’t give me much to work with from an investigation standpoint. But since most of the commentary has become rather emotionally charged, I wanted to talk about how things work inside Xbox because I think a lot of people are latching on to some kind of “Microsoft sides with homophobes” meme.

Our current policy for Gamertags and Profiles does not allow expression of sexual orientation under the Terms of Use. That applies to *any* orientation, straight or gay or otherwise. Gamers can however self identify their orientation in voice chat, where context for their statements can be provided.

A few months ago when this first cropped up as something that displeased people, my team saw that although the policy was objective, it’s inelegant.  At that time we proactively engaged the LGBT community within Microsoft, as well as external LGBT groups to help inform our policy.

Some people say “hey it’s easy, just stop banning instances of the word ‘Gay’”.  We looked at that as a solution, the problem is when reviewing the complaint data historical record, we found that 95+% of the uses of the word “Gay” were pejorative. LGBT phrases and words were far more being used as insults than self identification.

This led me to a bit of an epiphany.  Our policy was inelegant because it was being applied to features that weren’t quite prepared for the range of content.  And it changed our thinking about a solution.  The key here is to have ways for people to express their individuality or community in a way that’s difficult to misuse.

All of this is meant to say we’re not some monolithic corporation trying to establish social mores.  We’re not enforcing censorship or bigotry.  In fact harassment of gamers of any type be it homophobia or racism or other, is expressly forbidden and my team will take action against it, up to and including a permanent ban.

It’s a tough problem, but for the past few months we’ve been engaged with internal and external community representatives to help solve it.  I don’t have anything to announce about it other than we’re working to try and provide the capability for people to more clearly express themselves in ways that are difficult to misuse.

Theresa from the Consumerist article, if you’re reading this, I don’t have your Gamertag or any information about you at all, the article was extremely vague.  I’d love to get your feedback and talk to you about how we can make the experience better. Please email me at Stepto@microsoft.com.



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