Kantor said:
Resident Evil 4. |
It sold what 1.5 million?, wasn't exclusive and came very late into the GameCube's life
So in short.. No
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puffy said:
It sold what 1.5 million?, wasn't exclusive and came very late into the GameCube's life So in short.. No |
It's from a relatively huge series, and it was exclusive to begin with, Capcom weren't happy with the sales and ported it, apparently they weren't happy with 2.7 million on the PS2 either, so they ported it to Wii.
The GameCube "failed" because no console with an image, lack of innovation (surprising, for Nintendo), non-DVD with minimal third party support could beat the PS2's quality or the Xbox's near unlimited funding.
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Indeed - PS2 had all the system sellers last gen and XBOX had Halo.
Not to mention all the third party games to back it up. GameCube had little third party support and sequels from Nintendo.. Pikmin could have been a system seller but wasn't.
wiifit is a system seller, because it made people that weren't even interested in a wii get it for that game.
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goddog said:
yet again you prove my point. I said "with out" motion (controls was implied but maybe i believed to much in your deductive reasoning ) and using traditional mechanisms (say a non motion cotroller) would be nothing but early last gen pedestrian games... the motion physics is what makes them unique ... *edit* strike through sorry I miss read. I thought you were replying not going off on a retarded tangent. your assuming wii sports is selling the wii because of its high sales numbers, any bundled game can pull these numbers off. you would be far better suited to use non bundled games to prove you point. say mario kart, or super mario world. or a game where you can choose your control schema classic or motion. here all you have is a fun tech demo that requirers motion control all of this shows that without the hardware that is currently in place wii sport would not sell or to help you if it was called xbox 360 sports and you had to use a traditional control the game would have sucked and been forgotten back to my original point of the wii being a software seller, and title on it not being hardware movers. both wii fit, and wii sports are prime examples of this being the case up for more of this or are you done sticking your foot in your mouth... edit mmmm my own foot tastes so good.. that replying without reading through a second or third time is tasty |
So, you are saying a system sells software and software doesn't sell systems? So, are you saying the PS3/360 are no competition to the Wii software because those systems do not meet the needs of this generation? Interesting, and somewhat true I guess. However this thread was about system sellers not software sellers.
Interesting spin, but as wii sports demonstrates the advantages of the wii hardware (motion controls), it is a system seller. It is not a pack in in Japan, and it's sales are also high in Japan. So, it is clear that it is a system seller and that many people are buying the wii for wii sports (and wii fit). When well over 30% continue to buy it with a new system two years after it's release, it is clearly a system seller.
puffy said:
Lets talk about Wii Fit for a start. Are you seriously suggesting that people bought the game for the balance board? Yes some may have to play more core games in the future based on the BB but the majority (95%) of people bought it for Wii Fit. The hardware was built around the software, it's just a means to allow people to interact with the software and the software is what people are interested in. People don't buy Singstar because they're interested in the Microphone. They buy it because they're interested in singing along to their favourite songs - The microphone allows them to do that. People don't buy the iPhone because it has a multitouch touch screen and an accelerometer. They buy it because you can interact with the system more easily than others and you can do things that simply aren't possible with other phones. It isn't the hardware that makes people say wow I want one - It's the software that uses the hardware.
I can't explain it any clearer really... If you disagree then we'll have to respect each others opinion on that... |
once again with out the hardware provided both (sports/fit) of those units would be nothing special. I read it as this software was built for specific hardware they wanted to put out.
sing star is a different case where you could play the game with hardware that did not ship with the game making it less hardware dependent on top of that its core functunality is not broken if say you only have a headset and a controller vs the mic they include where wii fit does not work without a balance board and wii sports dose not work without motion controls.
and Ill reiterate I consider the Wii a special case.
never said the iphone sold because of this or that only the wii
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jlauro said:
So, you are saying a system sells software and software doesn't sell systems? So, are you saying the PS3/360 are no competition to the Wii software because those systems do not meet the needs of this generation? Interesting, and somewhat true I guess. However this thread was about system sellers not software sellers. Interesting spin, but as wii sports demonstrates the advantages of the wii hardware (motion controls), it is a system seller. It is not a pack in in Japan, and it's sales are also high in Japan. So, it is clear that it is a system seller and that many people are buying the wii for wii sports (and wii fit). When well over 30% continue to buy it with a new system two years after it's release, it is clearly a system seller.
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this is about the wii and only the wii. and where do you get line 2? i never said that (i love my 360). I am arguing that the wii dose not have any system sellers because its epic sales are not based on its games pushing the sales of units. but its units pushing the sales of games, due to a number of different things listed in my posts above.
you are right in regard that japan could hurt my argument. but a quick glance at items for sale shows that bundling at the store level could account for some of this, while reduced cost vs other games. tie this in with marketing and in store demos and there is why it paces above other comparable software. it also helps that its replacement is not out yet, and will never be viewed as a replacement but rather as an expansion.
I do agree that normally any game over 30% would be. but in this case no. I have stated my many disagreements with the point in the posts above.
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@ Goddog: This line of thinking is what seperates integrated software and hardware companies (Apple and Nintendo) from non-intergrated (Microsoft and Sony).
It's also a line of thinking that is being disrupted right now and it's the very reason why Nintendo is going to continue to do well as the other companies see the Wii's success coming from it's motion controls. Guess what! It's not.
An integrated company builds their products thinking about both software and hardware. The nunchuk was born because Retro Studios said they they could not build a Metroid Prime game with only the Wii Remote. The iPod and iPhone was always about the software as much as it was about the hardware and they play off each other.
Non-integrated, a great example is Sony. They built the PS3 as being the best console they could make and then dumped it onto the software teams and said 'make games for it'.
I don't think you're thinking about this very well and if you represent either Microsoft or Sony's thoughts - Then that particular companies next console is doomed to fail
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