Nobody's discussing "the 3-1 over 360" comment, but on GAF they think he's using the March-July or so PS3 launch period for that number, which makes it also pretty misleading.

 Point taken.  I didn't realize it was huge over in Europe.

 It's not quite as huge as some of the people on this thread are stating, i certainly wouldn't go as far

as to say it was larger than the wii but it is much bigger than in the US. 

That's exactly what I wanted to point out:  Nintendo created the base of the video game players with the NES, mostly children from 4 to 12.  Then, with time, you know, children grow ^^  So with the SNES/Genesis generation there was a bit more people to play.  Then, when the PS1 went out, it was almost 10 years after the NES, which means that the group that started on the NES was now 14-22, and the group that was now 4-12 was also playing video games, mostly because of the way Nintendo implanted games in the society.  So basically (Easy math, no real calculation), the market doubled, which is almost true when you look at the numbers. 

Sony did not expand the market, it just was smart enough to play the cool factor and reach for the group that was now 14-22, and this was important because these players were the oldest generation, the first one that would reach adult status and have kids, which would now be playing on Playstation console since their parents had made the switch from Nintendo to Sony with the PS1.  It worked pretty well for the PS2, on the news, you could even hear Playstation = Games instead of the Nintendo = Games.  Sony had total control on the market.......but then the Wii was^^  (And maybe more important, Sony decided to release a console at 600$US, probably forgetting that it was supposed to be a video game machine and that for one fan that is ready to spend that amount of money, there are 10 that are not)

I would use this opportunity to laugh at the Sony execs, but its honestly not like this is anything new, they've been like this since the late days of the PlayStation, whether reality is there to back them up or not, they continue on with that big shit-eating grin and a pleasant spin on how everything is going just the way they planned.

@ *~Onna76~*

Price isn't an object, if people really wanted a PS3, they would get a second Job. Sony said so. Are you saying Sony is wrong?

I see Sony expanding the market the same way as Psycho1984. Just sometime before PSX and Saturn was released, the visibility of gaming in the media just exploded. Suddenly games were everywhere. Then came PSX with massive marketing, unless you were living in a barrel, you did know what PlayStation X was. Cinema, newspapers, TV, bus stops, it was everywhere. Even Micro$ofts massive campain last year was nothing compared to Sonys marketing for PSX. Sony was able to catch the gaming audience, which was playing NES, Master System, SNES and Mega Drive in the previous console generations. And of course a couple new gamers.
One thing that also affected on PSX:s success, was that everyone had been playing Nintendo and Sega consoles as child, and therefore they were something kiddy for them, when soon to be independent kids wanted something that wasn't in their childhood. Now, Sony is facing the same kiddy image among soon to be independent kids.

Buzz and Singstar are big, they both are localized even for the small countries. PS3 haven't been advertised much since launch, but you can see Buzz or Singstar ads from TV and papers at least weekly. I think Boogie is going to be a hit in Europe.

Well, the guy is talking business, since all the PS2 had was minigames, non-games, cheap cash-ins, couple of Sony games and casual games. Nothing for the hardcore crowd.

Oh, and you who wanted to count the portable consoles out, note that it was the Sony exec in the interview, who brought the handhelds in, by mentioning the DS.

Did you see me type invent anywhere?  Hmm?  No, because I know my history.  

The anlog stick developed for Atari wasn't fully analog, it was still a digital interface that couldn't measure distance from center or full 360 degree rotation.  It was basically a step up from the old joystick. 

The technology used in the Rumble Pack was based loosely on other technology but was unique enough that Nintendo pattented it.

Motion detection was utilized by MS with the Sidewinder controller but that was a poorly done peripheral and not a default console feature.  In fact Nintendo first began testing motion detection with Kirby in 2000 by using a built in chip in the game cartridge.  

Care to explain how the D-pad was a step backwards from the joystick?

While the Atari 800 did have 4 controller ports, it was more a computer than a games console.  Besides, I mentioned Mario Party for a reason in that either on their own were not a charge towards social gaming but combined they were.

As for your last statement, then so too should the same go for Sony but instead here they are with bunched up panties. 

They didn't make up anything in that article that I saw and yes, Sony was a part of expanding the market in the last generation. They (With help from 3rd parties too) introduced some very popular "Casual" games in that generation that pushed some people who did not play video games into buying a system for those casual games.

I see nothing wrong with that statement one bit. Of course the wii has taken that to the next step with even more casual games and the motion controller. But the fact is, games like singstar, Guitar Hero, buzz, etc paved the way towards the casual gamer.