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I played killzone 2 yesterday and from what i have seen its really kz2>everything else ;)

Catch on fire? I guess you haven't even played the game. That 'fire' comes when player is taking hits.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bPhpx-tnVdM , see?

You do know how large and free Crysis maps are? You do know that crysis physics are calculated entirely on CPU? You do know that its already quite old game? :)

You know whats hot today in physics on PC? Its PhysX on videocards. You know what does it look like? :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qBlL0Jj7QBM

Show me even one PS3 game that beats that. No and the answer isn't your Jesus Killzone 2. :P

Finally some bad ass explosions from crysis,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_2bVHlcUvaQ

(Does Killzone 2 has such explosions? ;) )

You do realize that there is NOTHING on screen but one character and explosions, right?  Secondly, EVERY explosion is the same!  It's the same exact patterns being displayed one on top of the other.  I would say those explosions are HIGHLY scripted and not based on accurate physics.  Do you think that people catching on fire from bullets is based on physics?  That's NOT realism.

BTW, why are you showing a multiplatform PC game that's not even a part of the discussion?

OK,. I've played Killzone 2 myself finally, and it looks Ok, BUT, GOW(1+)2, COD (2+3+)4 on the 360 looked better.

=> Killzone has some better animations, Faces on the Charakters, more smoke, partical and Licht effects, more Polygon arichtectures (but everthings a bit "square"), while COD4 runs 60 f/sec, has such things like "high grass" and vegetation, more details on the textrues (and also has smoke effects), and more colors (and more enemies?) => fist impression of COD4 (on the 360, no tearing and flimmering) was hotter than K2

=> GOW2 looks ever better than COD4, even more details, more colors, more vegetation, more enmies (but not 60 f/sec.)...

but it's not all about the grafix, it's about the gameplay =>

1) contolles: the aiming isn't the best, it "accelarates" wierd (not while zooming, just while aiming), the Buttons configuration sucks a bit, you have to have the granades on one of the triggers..

2) action: the "cover"system is cool and fast, but that's about the best it gets;
sure the feeling of "being" there and not just watching is great, but not better than other new games;
the scripts are a bit boring, the situations and action pattern are normal, nothin special (but I havent finished it yet); you often get a "grab that gunturret" or grab that rocketlauncher and shoot the door"=> so cliché and overused and seen a hundred times in other games;
the "normal" weapons are a lot like a from COD2-4 sofar, just like Resistance 1+2;
the story is nothing really to keep you going, I preferd Resistance 1+2 Stories, but some of the cutscenes are cool
3) Multiplayer it's solid I guess , but a lot of people still dont have headsets (that really sucks, would expect that they get one by the time R2 came out....seem, that the PS3 just isnt a real MP Shooter console yet), in europe the MP statisics wouldnt save after quitting the MP game, (personally didn't enjoy the MP to much, like I said few headsets, and the controlles are not soo cool, did keep me wanting to go for long,

somehow, while playing K2, it seemed as if, the whole game was slightly zoomed in, just a bit, the movement and the way everything seems so close (or big), it was at time, as if the game was made, then they decided to zoom it in a bit (and no, I dont mean, when I zoom with the weapon, not even by accident)


=>all COD's, all GOW's, Left 4 Dead, the darkness (yes the dakness), Bioshock, Halflife 2, Halo3 are all better shooter; Killzone 2 deseves about 78-84% all in all, sure a lot of big Fanboys, those who said, Resistance2 ist better than or equal to Halo3, GOW1+2, are going say again, K2 is better and nicer......, even the new Lost Planet 2 Video looks better than K2

http://www.gamepro.de/index.cfm?pid=386&pk=1030

(lost Planet 2 Trailer, came out the day K2 came out (has some simelor things in it like K20...came out just like the God of war annoucement came out the day Gears of War 2 came out...., the trailer schow real footage after the designe finishes talking after about 1 Min 40 sec)

Thank you for letting everyone know, up front, that you shouldn't be taken seriously!

both the ps3 and xbox360 both have PhysX support built right into their GPU's, as a matter of fact both system's are getting one of the best game's that showed those function's off:

CellFactor: Psychokinetic Wars, a remake of the free PhysX showcase CellFactor: Combat Training, will be a downloadable title for Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3 next year:

Today Ubisoft announced it will be releasing CellFactor: Psychokinetic Wars on Xbox LIVE Arcade for the Xbox 360 video game and entertainment system from Microsoft and PlayStation Network from premier developer Immersion Games. CellFactor: Psychokinetic Wars is a fast-paced first-person multiplayer shooter that puts players in the center of the battle of technology vs. humanity. Complete with next-gen graphics and robust gameplay, CellFactor: Psychokinetic Wars allows players to wage war by using their choice of gunfire and/or telekinetic superpowers. Players can use telekinetic energy to rip objects from the surrounding environment and hurl them at enemies or draw on their powers to create a bullet-proof energy shield that protects against gunfire. Flying, teleporting and accelerated speed abilities give players countless ways to fight the good fight with plenty of intense combat action.

CellFactor: Psychokinetic Wars will be available on Xbox LIVE Arcade for Xbox 360 and PlayStation Network and is rated "T" for Teen.

here is a PC demo:

http://files.filefront.com/CellFactor+Revolution+Full+Game/;7462987;/fileinfo.html

Jetrii, I'm still waiting on your data.

"Also, don't bother replying to this, I won't humor you anymore. Had you just posted that PDF, your opinion, and fundamental understanding of game graphics, I would have respected your opinion and politely pointed out any flaws in your understanding of computer graphics. However, your last post came off extremely rude. I can excuse your ignorance but I won't stand for your arrogance."

I believe Jetrii isn't going to speak with you anymore sadly. Breakups are hard and hurt but time can heal any emotional wound no matter how deep the relationship had blossomed to =) Maybe you should read this book?

You thinking I'm rude to a person obviously trying to deceive people, is your opinion.  However, it doesn't take away from the truth of the tremendous amount of evidence I've brought forth.  Ultimately, he isn't going to come forth because he has NO evidence.  He was just using manipulation techniques on these people.  That's just terrible.