Khuutra said:
The fact that you use a clearly failed methodology to justify itself is kind of bizarre. Yes, one may make note of general trends and use them to predict other general trends, but using them to predict individuals is fallacious. That's not how statistics work.
Being "offensive" has nothing to do with it - assuming things about individuals based on groups is repugnant because of its inability to produce accurate results. Whether this is just morally wrong or fallacious from a utilitarian perspective is up to debate, but it is still obviously very wrong, and your assumption that KylieDog was a woman is the only example that's ever going to be needed to prove that point.
Your conjecture concerning my personal beliefs holds exactly as much water as it did when I answered your previous post, which you seem to have conveniently ignored.
Why aren't I discussing my "ideology"? because it's irrelevant. You are using fallacious methods, no matter how you look at it, and have failed to provide an explanation for why failed methods should continue to be used.
You're free to make as many demands as you want, but it will not distract from the point that you stuck your foot in your mouth and then, instead of removing it, simply proceeded to chew. |
I'll go ahead and end this now.
@Fei-Hung
I wasn't being racist. I was simply referring to people like himself as "those without perception or insight." Obviously. I don't know one of you people from the other, how am I supposed to guess he is muslim.
BTW, who are you kidding. Act right. If I'm going to be racist, I'll be a lot more concise than that. This isn't a sitcom. Stop using my verbage to feign offense. Begone.
@Khuutra
You are attempting to guise the issue in a group of passionate, harsh, and moving words, yet you fail to address the core subject. I have told you time and time again, just because your opinion is that I have something to apologize for, doesn't mean it's true. I'm not the same as you. I don't live by societies rules of etiquett. When I offend you, I do it on purpose, and I don't apologize unless I'm wrong. Frankly, if I judge someone by the color of their skin, or what gender they are, it's none of your business, and you have no right to judge me, but that's what you do best, isn't it?
You adamantly refust to admit your progressive stance on the issues, which is at the root of this argument, instead attempting to keep the focus squarely on me. A great tactic, seeing as how your beliefs are probably a tad embrarassing when you say them out loud in a non-friendly room, but fine, lets drop you, and your beliefs. Let's pretend this isn't about politics and ideology. Let's pretend that you just commented because I made a sexist comment, and won't apologize about it, and you think I should. Simple. Here is my reply to that fake assertion:
Tough.
I can question who I want to, even if I'm implying generalization via steriotype. I enjoy it. It brings me pleasure in all sorts of glorious ways.
I'm not here to be popular, or to be your friend. I don't need your validation. I'm quite self sustaining. Your opinions about biggots, racist, and sexists will never be "right" nor will they have any effect whatsoever on the ideals of those people. FYI, they probably have a pretty slanted opinion of your side of the argument as well. Which one is right? The side with the most people on it?
What you view as common sense, and reality, is simply an opinion you've been fed since childhood, but we're getting back on the subject of you, aren't we. Let's disgress.
You say that I stuck my foot in my mouth because I flamed somebody at the expense of female pride?
I laugh at that assertion, and I walk all over female pride. If it serves my purpose, I shall use it, and I flame, and continue to do so, on purpose, for my pleasure, and you'll never see my shed a tear, or drop an apology, unless I have wronged someone in my own eyes. If you think you can bully me, you really don't read my posts often enough.
Sexist jokes can be funny, and true, as a generalization(which is how I presented my original post with the "let me guess" line). Just because you are the butt of the joke, doesn't mean you have to throw a hissy fit(just to clarify, my joke wasn't intentionally sexist). You are far too sensative for this world, and I'd request that we end this argument on that note of disagreement. I'm sure you believe that I'm far too harsh, but I guess that we both can agree, I'm far from ignorant...about most things. We are dangerously close to getting this thread locked, and I'd rather the great trailer be seen by as many people as possible.
Just to include a final note, on topic:
The trailer is a parody of Ninja Gaiden and DMCIII. It's purposefully over the top, in an attempt to hook the crowd attracted to those types of games, and to garner more attention for itself with a differentiated trailer. Saying you don't like the game because the girl in the trailer is ugly, is vastly more sexist than anything I would ever dare say on these forums, so yes, you're welcome. If you need anything else explained, you know where to find me.
