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xbebop on 30 January 2009
arsenicazure said:
Phenom II isnt bad at all and pretty competitive, and the slowest version of the upcoming DDR3 only phenom II is faster than the current fastest DDR2 offering, so iD say AMD is still in the race- I have used both AMD and intel processors and If the new DDR3 offering is good.. I ll go for that.. plow the savings into a bigger LCD :)

Overall AMD have seemed directionless for a while but its slowly and painfully getting back on its feet. Intel still does rule though. we need another Athlon 64 and now for AMD to truly come back

 

Wait, what?

Processors aren't measured in DDR3 or DDR2 in any way whatsoever. lol

Intel rules the roost right now, but I hope AMD catches up soon.



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Viper1 on 30 January 2009
CommunistHater said:
Support AMD and fight the Intel Monopoly

 

Monopoly?  Since when?   Not sure if you've taken a look at the sever market lately but AMD kinda dominates it.



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arsenicazure on 31 January 2009
xbebop said:
arsenicazure said:
Phenom II isnt bad at all and pretty competitive, and the slowest version of the upcoming DDR3 only phenom II is faster than the current fastest DDR2 offering, so iD say AMD is still in the race- I have used both AMD and intel processors and If the new DDR3 offering is good.. I ll go for that.. plow the savings into a bigger LCD :)

Overall AMD have seemed directionless for a while but its slowly and painfully getting back on its feet. Intel still does rule though. we need another Athlon 64 and now for AMD to truly come back

 

Wait, what?

Processors aren't measured in DDR3 or DDR2 in any way whatsoever. lol

Intel rules the roost right now, but I hope AMD catches up soon.

 

umm.. DDR is the memory type..intel currently supports DDR3 on their quad cores wheres phenom supports DDR2, which makes sense since equivalent memory on DD2 is 1/3-1/2 the price as DDR3, and the mobos for DDR3 cost more. The newer upcoming phenoms will support the faster DDR3 memory. Hence them getting more competitive. AMD has never been about cutting edge. Just cutting price at good performance.



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Viper1 on 31 January 2009
arsenicazure said:
xbebop said:
arsenicazure said:
Phenom II isnt bad at all and pretty competitive, and the slowest version of the upcoming DDR3 only phenom II is faster than the current fastest DDR2 offering, so iD say AMD is still in the race- I have used both AMD and intel processors and If the new DDR3 offering is good.. I ll go for that.. plow the savings into a bigger LCD :)

Overall AMD have seemed directionless for a while but its slowly and painfully getting back on its feet. Intel still does rule though. we need another Athlon 64 and now for AMD to truly come back

 

Wait, what?

Processors aren't measured in DDR3 or DDR2 in any way whatsoever. lol

Intel rules the roost right now, but I hope AMD catches up soon.

 

umm.. DDR is the memory type..intel currently supports DDR3 on their quad cores wheres phenom supports DDR2, which makes sense since equivalent memory on DD2 is 1/3-1/2 the price as DDR3, and the mobos for DDR3 cost more. The newer upcoming phenoms will support the faster DDR3 memory. Hence them getting more competitive. AMD has never been about cutting edge. Just cutting price at good performance.

Core 2 Quad supports DDR2.

i7 supports DDR3.

 

Both are quad core.

 



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Soleron on 31 January 2009
Viper1 said:
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Core 2 Quad supports DDR2.

i7 supports DDR3.

 

Both are quad core.

 

 

Core 2 Quad supports any type of memory, since it doesn't have a memory controller. This is why there was no socket change from DDR2 -> DDR3 with Intel.

The original Phenom's memory controller supported DDR3, but the socket and motherboards didn't. DDR3 motherboards for Phenom II are coming in February.

DDR3 is double the price of DDR2 at minimal additional performance. DDR2 is the best option today anyway. The fact you're forced to use DDR3 and a DDR3 motherboard with Core i7 means it is too expensive for most people. On the other hand, AMD's DDR3 CPUs will work in DDR2 motherboards so you still have the choice. There will even be hybrid DDR2/DDR3 motherboards from AMD.



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Electro General on 31 January 2009
ssj12 said:
SamuelRSmith said:
ssj12 said:
Senlis said:
You can look at it this way. If you have X$ to spend on a processor, and you look at AMD and Intel processors at that price, the AMD is going to be faster because AMD processors tend to be cheaper.

 

You do know your post doesnt make any sense right?

cheaper = faster?

last time I checked the Core i7 920 costs about $80 more than the new Phenom II 940 processor and virtually destroys it in all benchmarks.

 

 So... you're saying that the more expensive chip is the more powerful one?

 

benchmarks across the internet says yes. And it is barely more expensive.

Still I'm waiting to see which will be faster, Core i7 Duos or the Phenom IIs.

80 bucks isn't barely more expensive, especially when you can get a much better video card with that cash.

On top of that core i7 motherboards are expensive as fuck, and you have to go with DDR3.

 



arsenicazure on 31 January 2009
Viper1 said:
arsenicazure said:
xbebop said:
arsenicazure said:
Phenom II isnt bad at all and pretty competitive, and the slowest version of the upcoming DDR3 only phenom II is faster than the current fastest DDR2 offering, so iD say AMD is still in the race- I have used both AMD and intel processors and If the new DDR3 offering is good.. I ll go for that.. plow the savings into a bigger LCD :)

Overall AMD have seemed directionless for a while but its slowly and painfully getting back on its feet. Intel still does rule though. we need another Athlon 64 and now for AMD to truly come back

 

Wait, what?

Processors aren't measured in DDR3 or DDR2 in any way whatsoever. lol

Intel rules the roost right now, but I hope AMD catches up soon.

 

umm.. DDR is the memory type..intel currently supports DDR3 on their quad cores wheres phenom supports DDR2, which makes sense since equivalent memory on DD2 is 1/3-1/2 the price as DDR3, and the mobos for DDR3 cost more. The newer upcoming phenoms will support the faster DDR3 memory. Hence them getting more competitive. AMD has never been about cutting edge. Just cutting price at good performance.

Core 2 Quad supports DDR2.

i7 supports DDR3.

 

Both are quad core.

 

 

yea but phenom is priced cheaper than the C2Q and DDR2 is considerably cheaper than DDR3



Doubt is not a pleasant condition, but certainty is absurd.

owner of : atari 2600, commodore 64, NES,gameboy,atari lynx, genesis, saturn,neogeo,DC,PS2,GC,X360, Wii

5 THINGS I'd like to see before i knock out:

a. a AAA 3D sonic title

b. a nintendo developed game that has a "M rating"

c. redesgined PS controller

d. SEGA back in the console business

e. M$ out of the OS business

xbebop on 11 February 2009
arsenicazure said:
xbebop said:
arsenicazure said:
Phenom II isnt bad at all and pretty competitive, and the slowest version of the upcoming DDR3 only phenom II is faster than the current fastest DDR2 offering, so iD say AMD is still in the race- I have used both AMD and intel processors and If the new DDR3 offering is good.. I ll go for that.. plow the savings into a bigger LCD :)

Overall AMD have seemed directionless for a while but its slowly and painfully getting back on its feet. Intel still does rule though. we need another Athlon 64 and now for AMD to truly come back

 

Wait, what?

Processors aren't measured in DDR3 or DDR2 in any way whatsoever. lol

Intel rules the roost right now, but I hope AMD catches up soon.

 

umm.. DDR is the memory type..intel currently supports DDR3 on their quad cores wheres phenom supports DDR2, which makes sense since equivalent memory on DD2 is 1/3-1/2 the price as DDR3, and the mobos for DDR3 cost more. The newer upcoming phenoms will support the faster DDR3 memory. Hence them getting more competitive. AMD has never been about cutting edge. Just cutting price at good performance.

AMD was on the cutting edge during the P4 vs. Athlon days. ;)

Also, I know that they are memory types. -.-' Otherwise I wouldn't have made a smartass comment like I did.



Deviation59 on 12 February 2009

I used to be a big AMD fan but I've stuck with Intel for the past eight years or so because Intel actually designs chipsets for their motherboards. I've never had a stability issue with an Intel system. Ever.

My AMD experiences on the other hand... relying on VIA and nVidia for motherboard chipsets was not in any way fun.

The best price/performance deal to be had for CPUs these days probably goes to the Intel Core 2 Duo E8400. It's a 3ghz dual core chip and you can find it for under $160 if you look around.

Intel has really leaped way ahead of AMD when it comes to performance ever since the introduction of the Core2 CPUs.



z on 12 February 2009

Apples to apples these days. Each one has an edge for a few months before the competitor strikes with a product that improves in some areas.

I used AMD for several years with the first few gens of Athlons. Never had any complaints. The big deal is to get a quality motherboard, regardless of which brand you buy. That will save you from any serious headaches. Don't skimp on the power supply either. Buy Seasonic or Antec or something equivalent.

Now I have an Intel Core 2 Quad, which I built a little over a year ago. It's a great system, even to this day. Intel motherboard was a bit pricey, but has been ultra-reliable.

Bottom-line, both brands are great products. Get what seems to fit your budget, and buy a quality motherboard, PSU, and good RAM. Think of those things first, because many people have a tendency to put those parts on the backburner where they really should receive the most scrutiny.