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tehsage on 27 January 2009
Snake said:
Final-Fan said:
Snake said:
Sullla said:
Snake said:
Mario, Zelda, Mario, Zelda, Mario, Zelda, Mario, Zelda, Mario, Zelda, Mario, Zelda... Its pretty damn easy to make 2 good games and than just upgrade the graphics and characters just like Nintendo is doing. Sony and Microsoft are at least trying to make new characters and new stories. If Sony worked 20 years on Medievil just like Nintendo worked 20 years on Mario, Medievil games would be pure 10 today. Like i said its pretty easy to make 1 or 2 characters and than upgrading them step by step for 20 years. Any company can do that
You're right. Nintendo NEVER creates new IPs. It's all Mario and Zelda. That's why the biggest Nintendo games over the past five years have been Wii Sports, Wii Fit, Nintendogs, and Brain Age.
What? Thats stupid. You cant count a game which is sold together with console. Wii sports is together with wii in the box.And which character did you find the best in wii sports?  Wii fit is not a game, its a Nintendo's way to beat its gaming competitors without actuall games.

Why does it not count as a new IP that Nintendo has created because it's a pack-in game?  It's at least somewhat arguable that the sales should not count (a losing argument IMO), but its EXISTENCE is impossible to deny.  Or so I thought until now. 

Also, Pikmin. 

 

 

So, i guess if Sony sold Tekken 4 together with PS2, Tekken 4 would be the best game in the history because it sold over 140 millions together with PS2? I am sorry but sales doesent make the game good at all. You cant play sales, can you? And since Wii sports is new IP i am asking you, which character did you liked the best in wii sports?

Wii Sports has to be one of the most influencial games of all time. It showed off what the Wii was capable of and expanded the gaming market. If that's not a good game then I don't know what is.

 



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Bladeforce on 27 January 2009

Microsoft is making money????????/ hell it must be my eyes lying to me with the thousands of job cuts they are introducing RIGHT NOW!



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bdbdbd on 27 January 2009

@Snake: Why Wii Sports isn't Mario Sports then?

@Griffin: Except that the N64 controller was introduced long before N64 came out. Sony had plenty of time to copy the idea. Apparently Nintendo thought that it wouldn't be copied.
And the controller in question is the best analog controller up to date.



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Linkzmax on 27 January 2009
tehsage said:
Griffin said:

Sony had a controller that used analog stick inputs before the N64 hit the market, so fail on your part.  Sonys controller was a re-design of its other controller with analog sticks, unlike the N64 controler which is the biggest screw up in modern controller history.

 

 

Source plz

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PlayStation_Analog_Joystick

I'm sorry, but I fail to see how this resembles the DualAnalog in any form.  And any way an analog joystick is quite different from analog thumbsticks.  Besides, Final-Fan did the best job of illustrating where Sony got their idea for the original Playstation controller.  Of course it would be expected though given the project they had been working on (SNES CD).

 

I would like to know how the N64's controller was such a screw up though.  Obviously the three prongs can't all be held at once, but I can't recall a single game of the 5th gen that required acess to the D-pad, thumbstick, face buttons, 2 shoulder pads, and the Z-trigger all at once.



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FJ-Warez on 27 January 2009
Snake said:
Sullla said:
Snake said:

Mario, Zelda, Mario, Zelda, Mario, Zelda, Mario, Zelda, Mario, Zelda, Mario, Zelda... Its pretty damn easy to make 2 good games and than just upgrade the graphics and characters just like Nintendo is doing. Sony and Microsoft are at least trying to make new characters and new stories. If Sony worked 20 years on Medievil just like Nintendo worked 20 years on Mario, Medievil games would be pure 10 today. Like i said its pretty easy to make 1 or 2 characters and than upgrading them step by step for 20 years. Any company can do that

You're right. Nintendo NEVER creates new IPs. It's all Mario and Zelda. That's why the biggest Nintendo games over the past five years have been Wii Sports, Wii Fit, Nintendogs, and Brain Age.

 

 

What? Thats stupid. You cant count a game which is sold together with console. Wii sports is together with wii in the box.And which character did you find the best in wii sports?  Wii fit is not a game, its a Nintendo's way to beat its gaming competitors without actuall games.

 

So wait, bundled games doesn´t count as a new IP because you don´t want to ??? Wii-fit is not a game?? Man are you being serious or are you just trying to make us laugh???

And about the best character I find the best in Wii sports?? My Mii of course XD

 

 



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Final-Fan on 27 January 2009
Snake said:
Final-Fan said:
Snake said:
Sullla said:
Snake said:
Mario, Zelda, Mario, Zelda, Mario, Zelda, Mario, Zelda, Mario, Zelda, Mario, Zelda... Its pretty damn easy to make 2 good games and than just upgrade the graphics and characters just like Nintendo is doing. Sony and Microsoft are at least trying to make new characters and new stories. If Sony worked 20 years on Medievil just like Nintendo worked 20 years on Mario, Medievil games would be pure 10 today. Like i said its pretty easy to make 1 or 2 characters and than upgrading them step by step for 20 years. Any company can do that
You're right. Nintendo NEVER creates new IPs. It's all Mario and Zelda. That's why the biggest Nintendo games over the past five years have been Wii Sports, Wii Fit, Nintendogs, and Brain Age.
What? Thats stupid. You cant count a game which is sold together with console. Wii sports is together with wii in the box.And which character did you find the best in wii sports?  Wii fit is not a game, its a Nintendo's way to beat its gaming competitors without actuall games.
Why does it not count as a new IP that Nintendo has created because it's a pack-in game?  It's at least somewhat arguable that the sales should not count (a losing argument IMO), but its EXISTENCE is impossible to deny.  Or so I thought until now. 

Also, Pikmin.
So, i guess if Sony sold Tekken 4 together with PS2, Tekken 4 would be the best game in the history because it would sold over 140 millions together with PS2? I am sorry but sales doesent make the game good at all. You cant play sales, can you? And since Wii sports is new IP i am asking you, which character did you liked the best in wii sports?

You don't understand.  Sales isn't what you were talking about.  You were saying that Nintendo isn't making new IP, but it made Wii Sports, which is new IP even if it's bundled. 

Character?  Tetris is an IP.  What character do you play in Tetris?  But to answer your question, my favorite character in Wii Sports is ME! 

Stop being silly. 



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Linkzmax on 27 January 2009
tehsage said:
Snake said:

So, i guess if Sony sold Tekken 4 together with PS2, Tekken 4 would be the best game in the history because it sold over 140 millions together with PS2? I am sorry but sales doesent make the game good at all. You cant play sales, can you? And since Wii sports is new IP i am asking you, which character did you liked the best in wii sports?

Wii Sports has to be one of the most influencial games of all time. It showed off what the Wii was capable of and expanded the gaming market. If that's not a good game then I don't know what is.

 

 

There's also the fact that many of the Wii's sales are due to the fact that people want to play Wii Sports.  Just look at the sales of Wii Sports in japan, where it isn't packed-in.  As to the question of which character is the best, are you claiming the Gran Turismo series isn't an IP?



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Blacksaber on 27 January 2009
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You don't understand.  Sales isn't what you were talking about.  You were saying that Nintendo isn't making new IP, but it made Wii Sports, which is new IP even if it's bundled. 

Character?  Tetris is an IP.  What character do you play in Tetris?  But to answer your question, my favorite character in Wii Sports is ME! 

Stop being silly. 

 

My favorite character is my own Star Fox in Wii sports...



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Final-Fan on 27 January 2009
Snake said:
Final-Fan said:
"And from which web site are those results? Gamerankings.com? What the hell is that web site? I bet nobody on this web site has heard of it."

Oh, I see. You were impersonating an ignoramus for teh lulz. Well played, sir. Well played.

[edit:  And on the off chance you're serious, be advised that this forum has had fiercely fought battles over gamerankings vs. metacritic, with gamerankings usually winning AFAIK.  It is extremely well known on this site.]
You didnt said anything about the web site. You were just acting arrogant like you are better than me or something.

Oh, I'm sorry, I thought you were capable of the tiniest bit of independent thought, and could go to THE WEBSITE on your own. 

It's a very well known site that takes many reviews from various publications and averages them out, so it's a good indicator of what professional reviewers in general think of a game. 

And FYI, I was acting like you were very new to this site yet presuming (incorrectly) to know what is and isn't general knowledge here.  Now I'm acting arrogant. 



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Snake on 27 January 2009
FJ-Warez said:
Snake said:
Sullla said:
Snake said:

Mario, Zelda, Mario, Zelda, Mario, Zelda, Mario, Zelda, Mario, Zelda, Mario, Zelda... Its pretty damn easy to make 2 good games and than just upgrade the graphics and characters just like Nintendo is doing. Sony and Microsoft are at least trying to make new characters and new stories. If Sony worked 20 years on Medievil just like Nintendo worked 20 years on Mario, Medievil games would be pure 10 today. Like i said its pretty easy to make 1 or 2 characters and than upgrading them step by step for 20 years. Any company can do that

You're right. Nintendo NEVER creates new IPs. It's all Mario and Zelda. That's why the biggest Nintendo games over the past five years have been Wii Sports, Wii Fit, Nintendogs, and Brain Age.

 

 

What? Thats stupid. You cant count a game which is sold together with console. Wii sports is together with wii in the box.And which character did you find the best in wii sports?  Wii fit is not a game, its a Nintendo's way to beat its gaming competitors without actuall games.

 

So wait, bundled games doesn´t count as a new IP because you don´t want to ??? Wii-fit is not a game?? Man are you being serious or are you just trying to make us laugh???

And about the best character I find the best in Wii sports?? My Mii of course XD

 

 

 

 

Wii fit is a game? H O W ???

 

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