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mitsuhide on 19 August 2007
dtewi said:
You took my post entirely out of context mitsuhide. Of course the Wii will have crap games, mediocre games, decent games, and AAA games. But my point was the PS3 simply can't last 2 gens. Sure maybe in can still sell some in the next gen, but it won't dominate. And the best we can do is make predictions, like your signature. How do we know what'll happen, but you said it yourself, MC will most likely be a standard.

 I agree the PS3 cant last 2gens it will sell,like the PS2 does now,nextgen.



End of 2014 Hardware Predictions (03/03/14)

PlayStation 4: 12-15million

Xbox One: 7-10 million

Wii U: 8-9 million (Changed 01/04/2014 from 7-9 --> 8-9 million)

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mitsuhide on 19 August 2007

@Rol:
That might be the stupid comment that Nintendo made.



End of 2014 Hardware Predictions (03/03/14)

PlayStation 4: 12-15million

Xbox One: 7-10 million

Wii U: 8-9 million (Changed 01/04/2014 from 7-9 --> 8-9 million)

lvader on 19 August 2007

Some would argue that the wii is a reworked GC, so it will last 10 years.



mitsuhide on 19 August 2007

Not that crap again.Ivadar the Wii is atleast 3x more powerful than the GC.



End of 2014 Hardware Predictions (03/03/14)

PlayStation 4: 12-15million

Xbox One: 7-10 million

Wii U: 8-9 million (Changed 01/04/2014 from 7-9 --> 8-9 million)

lvader on 19 August 2007

3 times more powerful now? By next year it will have caught up with the PS3

 Only kidding, you won't find a more pro Nintendo person than me. Put it this way Nintendo borrowed a lot more from the GC than MS or Sony did from their previous generations.



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WiteoutKing on 19 August 2007
Dolla Dolla said:
Ah, the signature bandits, Soriku and mitsuhide. Now, we only need WiteoutKing to show up, and your trifecta is complete!

 You rang?  ;P



PS3: 5.51m/51w, avg 108,039/w (up 239)
360: 12.93m/102w, avg 126,764/w (up 625), leads PS3 by 7.42m (up 70k), avg lead 18,725/w (up 386)
Wii: 13.52m/51w, avg 265,098/w (dn 1,102), leads PS3 by 8.01m (up 90k), avg lead 157,059/w (dn 1,341)

If 360 sales stabilize, PS3 sales increases needed to pass 360 by...
01/08: (008w) +875.8%, 04/08: (021w) +344.4%, 07/08: (034w) +219.3%, 10/08: (047w) +163.5%
01/09: (060w) +131.8%, 04/09: (073w) +111.4%, 07/09: (085w) +098.1%, 10/09: (099w) +086.7%
If Wii sales stabilize, PS3 sales increases needed to pass Wii by...
01/08: (008w) +1072.%, 04/08: (021w) +498.4%, 07/08: (034w) +363.4%, 10/08: (047w) +303.1%
01/09: (060w) +269.0%, 04/09: (073w) +246.9%, 07/09: (085w) +232.6%, 10/09: (099w) +220.3%
If PS2 sales freeze, Wii sales increases needed to pass PS2 (as of Mar07, 108.4m) by...
2008: (008w) +4373.8%, 2009: (060w) +0496.5%, 2010: (112w) +0219.6%, 2011: (165w) +0116.9%
2012: (217w) +0064.9%, 2013: (269w) +0033.1%, 2014: (321w) +0011.5%, 2015: (376w) -0004.8%
At +0% it will pass it in 358w, the week ending September 19th, 2014, at an age of 409w (7y44w).
Current age of PS2: 7y37w.

Last update: Week ending November 3, 2007

HappySqurriel on 19 August 2007

One thing I don't think people understand is these claims that "The PS3 is a 10 year system!" are mainly a way to convince people that the $600 price tag is reasonable; it is an attempt to minimize the largest flaw in the PS3's strategy.

I do think that dtewi brings up an interesting point ... If the Wii is nearly as successful as the PS2 will consumers want conventional controls on their games in 5 years? Basically consider that in 4 years Nintendo/Microsoft should be able to produce a system with an advanced version of the Wiimote+Nunchuck, on hardware which is dramatically more powerful than the PS3, and is at a reasonable price range ($200 to $300) how will the PS3 be able to compete?

(Note: for those who doubt the ease of producing more powerful hardware than the PS3 at a reasonable price consider that when the XBox launched a 1GHz to 1.5GHz Pentium 4 processor was a $1,000 processor, when the XBox 360 launched you could buy a Pentium 4 processor in the 3GHz range on a motherboard with a 1GB of Memory for about $350).



mitsuhide on 19 August 2007
RolStoppable said:
mitsuhide said:
Not that crap again.Ivadar the Wii is atleast 3x more powerful than the GC.

Ivader said reworked GC, which is correct. The Wii uses an architecture similar to the one the GC had.


 Well if you read the Beauty and the Beast article it says the PS3 architecture its says its just a massive PS2 piece of hardware and this is because they were both primarily designed by Ken Kutarugi.



End of 2014 Hardware Predictions (03/03/14)

PlayStation 4: 12-15million

Xbox One: 7-10 million

Wii U: 8-9 million (Changed 01/04/2014 from 7-9 --> 8-9 million)

d21lewis on 19 August 2007

I don't have a PS3, so I don't know how well it's motion controls work. That said, IF the PS3 somehow dominates, it will be because it's packed with so many luxuries that may become standard down the line.

1. Blu-ray (even though I won't even watch a DVD on a video game console.) if it really does catch on
2. Motion control (it's here, and it's not a gimmick) Sony is the only place where motion control & next gen graphics collide
3. Graphics: which reached a point LAST GENERATION where you can emotionally connect to your character.
4. Online. By the time this generation ends, Sony & Microsoft will have set the standard for the following generation.
5. Storage capacity. I could care less about blu-ray. Then again I didn't give a crap about cd's when the N64 launched. I'm just a gamer, not a developer.

In all reality, I doubt Sony will win the next gen, but if they pull it off, these are the reasons. I'm just playing the advocate.



mitsuhide on 19 August 2007
RolStoppable said:
mitsuhide said:
RolStoppable said:
mitsuhide said:
Not that crap again.Ivadar the Wii is atleast 3x more powerful than the GC.

Ivader said reworked GC, which is correct. The Wii uses an architecture similar to the one the GC had.


Well if you read the Beauty and the Beast article it says the PS3 architecture its says its just a massive PS2 piece of hardware and this is because they were both primarily designed by Ken Kutarugi.


If the PS3 architecture would be similar to the PS2, developers wouldn't complain how hard it is to program for the PS3. Pretty much every developer was familiar with the PS2, but apparently the PS3 architecture is very different.

Not true the devs did complain about PS2 acrhitecture saying it was to complicated but it started to dominate so they were FORCED to shutup and learn how to make games for it to make profits.

 



End of 2014 Hardware Predictions (03/03/14)

PlayStation 4: 12-15million

Xbox One: 7-10 million

Wii U: 8-9 million (Changed 01/04/2014 from 7-9 --> 8-9 million)