@slimebeast

I want to see an analysis on this too

analysts should stop telling us the "obvious" n actually analyse a weird scenario like this

 Exactly! Good point. It's in weird cases like this we need their expertise. ^^

Does this mean that the new Splinter Cell will not be 360/PC exclusive?

Of course you have to consider their revenue (I completely agree here) but just blatantly looking at the revenue and saying the Playstation 3 made Ubisoft the most money is wrong. Only if you look at the revenue and take all other costs into account you'll get the complete picture. Grand Theft Auto IV for example surely is a huge source of revenue for Rockstar but the estimated development cost (+ advertising) is more than 100 million dollars. Imagine: Babies on the other hand sold 2 million copies or so but was so damn cheap to develop that it probably made almost as much profit in the end.

Just to remember you: I'm not one of the "PS3 is doomed" people just because I have an Xbox360 avatar. I'm a bit too old for the fanboy wars. I never said anybody will abandon the PS3, I just said this is the wrong explanation. I also don't argue from the "PS3 vs 360" point of view but from a financial one.  I'm sure Haze was a dissapointment for Ubisoft but it still made millions of dollars for them - if you don't take development costs into account.

Development costs are a huge factor today and a huge risk for developers so they surely have to be taken into consideration by every developer. If a developer only looks at revenues he is in danger of going bankrupt. This is probably the reason why Ubisoft has expanded its casual game development by such a lot: Less revenue but also less development costs and just as much profit in the end with a much lower risk (if you only spend half a million dollars on a game you can only lose half a million dollars). This is the deciding factor for developers, not revenue alone.

Edit: As a general example look at it this way: You can either develop a game with a budget of 10 million $ that will give you 15 million $ in revenue ( =5 million in profit) or a game with a budget of 1 million dollar that will make you 8 million dollars in revenue ( = 7 million in profit). Which one would you chose?

You see this is more a Wii/DS vs 360/PS3 thing as those two platforms have much lower development costs. I don't even remotely care if a developer puts a game on PS3 as lead platform or on 360, it doesn't bother me at all.

You should take fourth dimension into your examples too. How long did they make GTA IV and how long did they make Imagine: Babyz? Or rather how many games Imagine: Babyz team made in the same time period GTA IV was made? And risks are of course much lower. If Haze should have been Puzzle Haze or something casual it wouldn't have destroyed completely free radical. :)

I predict rosy future for casual games and not so rosy future for core games. Well, one way would be make core games by combining small companies/companies and dividing profit, losses and risks

I think you missed my point. I agree with almost everything you said because all you were trying to tell me is the difference between revenue and income. I know the difference. My point is that we don't know the development costs. AND with the 360 and the PS3 on multiplat games you'd have to assume the development cost is basically the same because of all the shared costs incured for developing a game. Therefore if the costs are even, then the revenue would determine the profit. Not the exact amount of profit, because you don't know the cost but it should indicate that the higher the revenue the more profitable. Then you'd have to compare the exclusives to eachother and what percent of the total games made were exclusives. If both platforms have a pretty even amount of exclusives and they are only a small portion of game sales/development cost compared to all the games released, then you'd assume revenue is still a pretty accurate indication of which was more profitable. 

I'm not aware of all the exclusives but if there was only 10 ubisoft games(hypothetically) and 9 were multiplat and 1 was a ps3 exclusive(haze) then you'd have to assume the PS3 total cost(development cost, marketing cost, etc.) was about 14% higher (give or take a percentage point depending on the quality of the other 9 games). 14% higher because we're assuming the average development cost of a game is represented by 1x and the cost to port a game is .5x thus making the two games for a miltiplat a total of 1.5 and then splitting the cost between the two platforms. That would give the PS3 development cost of 8.25x compared to 7.25x. 

Taking that indication of a 14% higher development cost you would look at the revenue and compare the two different consoles revenue. The PS3 would have to generate 14% more revenue to be a better investment. Though that method of anaylsis doesn't necessarily give you the Profit, it does give you an indication of Return On Investment. And that is actually a more important number to companies than raw profits. 

Ofcourse those are just hypothetical numbers and a theory of how best to determine which console is giving the company a better return. It would be much too difficult to determine anything comparing the Wii or the handheld games, because we are not exactly sure how much it costs to develop on those consoles compared to other consoles. We assume it's cheaper to develop for, but we really don't know how much cheaper. 

Gotta love all those 3rd party exclusives the PS3 is getting.
You know...uh...final...er....um...Killz...wait thats not 3rd party....um....heh i know this one....White kn...nope....

I give.

That would run contrary to all other indications and talk which states that PS3 has the highest liscensing cost of the three consoles.

Actually, these numbers indicated that PS3 porbably doesn't have the highest liscensing cost of the 3. Sure, Ubi probably makes more money in Europe than NA, but NA still buys more copies of games.

These numbers, however everything that's been heard to the contrary however...

Making a conclusion off this that could be the case for any reason would be a bad move.