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ssj12 said:
Skeeuk said:
NJ5 said:
"Sony likely has a 4 million unit lead in Japan"

If you thought Pachter couldn't fail any harder...

ye i noticed that, its obviously a typo on cvg`s part

 

 

ya, has to be a typo. 3 million would have made a bit more sense and since 3 and 4 is right next to eachother it is easy to do.

 

His numbers dont make much sense either way though but he does have the point that while Sony might not lead in the US, the EU and JP is their best bet to win this gen. As long as they can pull closer to the 360 in the US they will be fine.

Do you realize that the gap is less than 2 million?

 



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NJ5 said:
Skeeuk said:
NJ5 said:
"Sony likely has a 4 million unit lead in Japan"

If you thought Pachter couldn't fail any harder...

ye i noticed that, its obviously a typo on cvg`s part

 

No it's definitely not a typo. Look at the other sentences:

"My guess is that Sony can sell 2 million PS3s per year more than Microsoft in Japan"

"So by the end of 2011, Sony should be (...) ahead by 10 million units in Japan"

 

i dont think ps3 can sell 2 mil more per year, but if games like ff13 and gt5 are released, or similar jap titles then it could be a remote possibility, but even more dependant is the pricing if ps3 manufacturing is lowered to the amount that a major price cut can be given.

 



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Skeeuk said:

i dont think ps3 can sell 2 mil more per year, but if games like ff13 and gt5 are released, or similar jap titles then it could be a remote possibility, but even more dependant is the pricing if ps3 manufacturing is lowered to the amount that a major price cut can be given.

 

My point is that these three sentences together show that it's not a typo. Pachter simply doesn't know how much the PS3 and 360 have sold in Japan.

 



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NJ5 said:
ssj12 said:
Skeeuk said:
NJ5 said:
"Sony likely has a 4 million unit lead in Japan"

If you thought Pachter couldn't fail any harder...

ye i noticed that, its obviously a typo on cvg`s part

 

 

ya, has to be a typo. 3 million would have made a bit more sense and since 3 and 4 is right next to eachother it is easy to do.

 

His numbers dont make much sense either way though but he does have the point that while Sony might not lead in the US, the EU and JP is their best bet to win this gen. As long as they can pull closer to the 360 in the US they will be fine.

Do you realize that the gap is less than 2 million?

 

 

Yes, I was jsut making a suggestion that it was a typo in that it was meant to be 3 mil versus 4 mil as even by Pachter's logic makes more sense.



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ssj12 said:

 

Yes, I was jsut making a suggestion that it was a typo in that it was meant to be 3 mil versus 4 mil as even by Pachter's logic makes more sense.

But he estimates a 10 million gap by the end of 2011. That's 3 years of sales, times 2 million (the gap per year according to him). 6 million, plus the supposed 4 million current gap is 10 million.

Everything is correct if you assume there's no typos (and ignore the fact that the PS3 hasn't even sold 3 million in Japan, much less outsold the 360 by 3 or 4 million).

 



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The PS3 will be lucky to have a 5 million lead over the X360 in Japan. And yes I am factoring in the PS3s saviour, Final Fantasy XIII.... because if it wasn't for that game (and 1 or 2 others) I doubt the PS3 would even manage a 3 million lead.



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