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Life in jail is worse than death if you ask me. There have been countless numbers of convicted murderers sentenced to death who were exonerated after their execution because of modern forensic evidence that showed they could not have committed the crime.

Part of the largest argument for anti-death penalty side is that we have killed a lot of people who didn't do anything wrong. They just simply got stuck holding the bag and looked guilty. Humans aren't perfect, so doesn't it follow that we shouldn't act like we are justified in determining who lives and dies?

And why am I not surprised that halogamer is a strong supporter of the death penalty...I myself am still kind of neutral on the issue, so I don't feel overly strong about the issue one way or the other. If I leaned towards any side it would be anti-death penalty.



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Anti death penalty.

I don't want the government to have the power to murder. It doesn't scare would-be murderers away from murdering because they either think they'll get away with it or don't care if they get caught. It's also cheaper to lock 'em up in a box for the rest of their life. But most importantly, I'm against any system that can accidentally murder an innocent person.

I'll oppose a government system that murders bad people until we have a magic system that can bring the good people back to life. Then I might change my mind, but I don't know, maybe not.



Oh no I can't see the question anymore!!! LOL

at any rate. I am pro you can reference the first couple responses for my reasons.



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I'm neutral but slightly more towards Anti...



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Wait a second. Rubang how is it at all cheaper for someone to be imprissoned for an indeterminate amount of time rather than executed?

Is there some high amount of cost to the new way of doing it? The drug to death method? If you ask me we should go back to hanging or firing squad.
Im divided on the electric chair.



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I am for Death Penalty few reasons (mainly practical), only for harshest crimes.

If someone is a serial rapist/murderer etc. etc. he is not (for me) considered human because his behavior is inhumane such person gives up its human rights, he is like mad dogs that we have to put down to protect ourselves, and there is no chance of redeaming for such individual (and in cases of serious or really viscious murdrers is really hard to get it wrong), therefore for the sake of society such problem should be eliminated.

Cheaper, why would we have to pay for such Criminals for their stay in prison for 30-40 years? Especially when one inmate costs government much more then children in care or in institutions (in most of european countries).

Punishment must fit the crime, someone that takes away life of other person in cold blood, without a reason cannot escape responsibility, and do not tell me that death is easier then living in prison, people who are sentenced do not give other people that choice or a chance.

Capital Punishment can be a detterent (maybe it does not work in America) but in other countries it seems to have an effect, look at Britain before and after abolition of Capital Punishment.

And about used form, electric chair or gas chamber are really brutal forms of doing it, there are many less painful or quicker alternatives.


I do consider myself libertarian, and im in favour of capital punishment.



For those of you who seem to think it's cheaper to execute someone (as if that is a reasonable argument anyway), here's what you need to know: it's not. Read here:

http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/costs-death-penalty

The main reason it costs more is because of court costs, which are astronomical because of the exhaustive appeals process demanded by the death penalty. You could argue that we should streamline the appeals process, but that is a decidedly uncomfortable argument for most since we already have had people freed from death row due to new evidence (or reexamination of DNA evidence) proving them innocent.



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It looks to me that the majority of the "costs of death penalty" come from awaiting sentancing i.e. same as life in prison, and the large settlements for when they epic fail by killing someone innocent.

So it would be my perception that citing this material to support the argument you attribute to it is not fruitfull.

In construct it would be cheaper to kill someone (sooner the better/cheaper) than let them remain in prison for decades.



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Commando said:
It looks to me that the majority of the "costs of death penalty" come from awaiting sentancing i.e. same as life in prison, and the large settlements for when they epic fail by killing someone innocent.

So it would be my perception that citing this material to support the argument you attribute to it is not fruitfull.

In construct it would be cheaper to kill someone (sooner the better/cheaper) than let them remain in prison for decades.

 The majority of the costs of the death penalty are not from awaiting sentencing but from the court costs. It costs relatively little to keep somebody in prison however the costs of court are extremely large

Read this http://www.amnestyusa.org/death-penalty/death-penalty-facts/death-penalty-cost/page.do?id=1101084



akuma587 said:
MrBubbles said:
i support the death penalty

That makes me feel much better about the death penalty...the guy who thinks Obama is the anti-christ thinks it is a good idea...

 

 

Akuma you are amazing! lol

 

btw, pro