Wow. What an iciteful awesme non trollish comment. :P Anyways, it's fairly obvious your little more then a fanboy yourself. You make a thread with little purpose more then to nitpick the shit out of a game. Where was your thread on the brown/grey in COD4 and many other shooters? War is often portrayed as a dark gritty place. Also, you say no matter what it would look better then Halo 3, but did you voice any negative comments about this game? It's pretty obvious your overanalyzing a game looking for flaws due to the fact that you won't be able to play this game on your 360. Your claims are pretty rediculous. We don't need WHAT IF threads. If "what if" were the only requirements for making a valuable thread, this forum would go to shit.

they have a lot of oil

did you notice the evil, poison breathing, naziesque helghast or not, what the hell do you think their world would look like??????????????????????????

rainbows and butterflies, with a toadstool thrown in for good measure?

this game is NOT supposed to look like Uncharted, that's idiotic to say the least, as far as GeoW or R2 goes, neither of them is particularly bright and colorful, that's just wouldn't make sense.... given that fact that you are SLAUGHTERING thousands of whatever.

Apparently the original message regarding if the environment lacked variety, it may risk being a boring place (aka "Why would anyone want to invade Helghast?") is now a discussion over the game being one color.  This issues comes out of the prospects of the nature of the planet Helghan, and whether or not it serves as a varied enough environment for people to fight in.  

As far as the game goes, I could play it on my PS3.  And since I bought the original Resistance, there is a chance I could pick up KZ2.  

well no is asking you to invade it you can just stay on earth.

I don't see what the original resistance has to do with KZ2.

And your original responses varied from criticizing the creators' choice to go for a bleak, barren landscape, combined with the question why anyone would then want to invade (which is a story-based decision, not a "oh, look, a lovey-dovey planet, let's go).

You then state that other games have diverse environments, which means this game can be tackled for (according to you) not having those, while you have been told that the developers have already stated that other environments ARE available in the game.

Subsequently, you go for the possible message that the story brings, and bash that without it even being known what the actual storyline is, let alone the final message of the story.

Then you switch to the fact that some people here have drawn the comparison with Crysis, as some sort of justification of calling this game out on its graphics.

Then creating some sort of realistic atmosphere about war is apparently wrong to you, because you want a romantisized version of it (Go play C&C: Renegade, where a death goes "POING")

Then you question a story about the invasion of the helghast planet should actually take place on the helghast planet.

Then you question whether there is ANY information about the story, yet you already bash the story every chance you get (way to go if you even state that you don't know whether enough information is available).

You then hop back onto the "why would anyone invade the planet" when plenty of answers have already been given, namely "they invaded first, then a retaliation to finish the job is now in order in KZ2", but once that answer is given, you jump back onto the storyline and the graphics.

You're a broken record, unwilling to listen what has already been said.

Probably just going to rince and repeat above statements in random order, depending on the answers given to you by subsequent posters.

Someone says something, and I respond.  Then someone elses comes back with the SAME point someone else said, and I respond to the same way.  That is rince and repeat.  I also try to more diplomatically bring things to closure, but the same points keep being brought up, like my criticism of the game is the color scheme, and I explain that isn't it.  But then SOMEONE ELSE again brings it up, and now brown and grey are like an inside joke in this thread.

If you want an end to the rince and repeat to this thread, here it is:

I will say, if the environments are diverse in Killzone 2, then my questioning the variety of play is moot.  If the storyline is fleshed out properly as to the cause for the invasion, then you have an answer to why.  With both of these done, my question is moot. 

Does this make sense?  This is a summation of what I have been trying to say, and can we leave it at that?  Or is someone else going to jump in and whine that I am complaining about the color scheme.  This is seriously getting old if that happens.  In the mean time, I was trying to make light of the thread, but apparently that didn't go anywhere.  So, on this note, I said what I said, based upon what was said in here, and will look to have it close.  Apparently Killzone 2 is such a scared title for Sony fans, that even to question any part of it will bring the wrath of fandom upon anyone that does.  

Maybe mods can lock all threads questioning Killzone 2, as to not to upset Sony fans on here.

It's not about questioning killzone

You were given answers and you did not just reply to others or try to bring things to an end. You ignored the answers in the beginning that would've ended this thread and brought up other parts that you wanted to question about the game.

Don't act as if you were trying to bring this to a close, since you still questioned whether Helghan would provide enough variation to warrant a visit.

Oh I would say between page 3 and 4, the recycling began.  Ok, let me say this again here:

IF the environment has sufficient variety, FROM A GAMEPLAY STANDPOINT, issues of variety should not be an issue.  In the same way that Gears 2 got praise for varying the environment over the original, KZ2 shouldn't be knocked for it.  HOWEVER, if the first few levels show represent the entire game, then the game will get knocked for not having a varied enough environment.

In regards to motivation, that would have to deal with the writers for the game fleshing out motivations sufficiently, so that players can plug into it, and get interested.  It has to be far more than a fanboy rooting for the game to crush Halo and Gears, but be a good game on its own right.  It is the key difference of the game providing sufficient motivation on its own for people to be interested that will generate sufficient sales.

As for whether or not I feel there is enough justification for invading Helghan, who cares if I do?  I am just one person.  What matters is if enough other people feel that way. (Plug in political justification for invading Iraq as an example here.  Again, what does my thought matter on it?).  This thread could be used as a reason to go into how great the story is, by the way, if people chose.

Well, unless there is some screwball answer that takes this thread in some unexpected manner, I should be done replying here, and will let you get the last word in.

The style isn't very engaging but it is very fitting. Besides, using GeoW2 and R2 as examples of better artistic style isn't exactly a good idea as GeoW2 is pretty grey, too, and R2 looks a bit generic. Uncharted on the other hand is an excellent examply - definitely one of the best-looking games this gen both technically and artistically. Anyway, the game is beautiful despite its environment and even its boring environment is very fitting. Besides, war isn't beatiful and so isn't pollution (if that is it).

[sarcastic answer]Of course Helghast (is that really the name of that planet?) is being invaded because it'll be safer in the future if the enemy is destroyed. They don't seem very eager to co-operate under any conditions so destroying might be the only option...[/sarcastic answer]