Believe whatever you hear from the bias media.

The truth is Israel has turned Gaza into a prison, there is a huge wall around it and little to no aid is getting through. Israel routinely kills civilians and then passes it off as militants who were killed.

Hundreds of Palestinian civilians have been killed compared to what, 4 Israelis? That is a shocking number.

It is well known that Israel will retaliate with disproportionate force every time they attack in as a form of deterrence to the thousands of groups who would like to attack Israel. While you may not agree with the tactic it is one of the main reasons Israel is still a sovereign nation, and we haven heard about genocide occurring within a newly conquered Israel.

Now, influential supporters of the Palestinian cause are attacking Israel to incur the disproportionate retaliation as a means to pass their message and propaganda (often using staged photos) through useful idiots like the mainstream media. The only way to stop the rocket attacks is to kill the influential supporters, and these people can not be targeted through the use of aerial bombardment.

Hamas, in their charter, call for an end to Israel's existance - way to be civilized there, eh? It's kind of hard for Israel to negotate with people that deny their right to live. It's not like we're seeing Israel bomb the West Bank and PLA positions - They are now living in realtive peace (and the PLA is also not throwing rockets into Israel - funny how that works).

Why did Hamas, during the cease fire, begin to dig tunnels underneath the border into Israel to attack them? Why did Hamas start launching rockets on November 4th into Israel (in response to Israel finding their tunnels) - despite the fact Israel launched no attacks before that?

- Don't forget why we have this wall in the first place. Suicide bombers out of Gaza. After the wall has been put up, they, thank god, vanished.

- Don't forget who broke the ceasifire treaty. Israel has been taking Hamas's rockets for a MONTH with no reprecusssions.

- What does it matter how many Israelis died compared to the Palestinians? look who started it all. Had they respected the ceasfire no one would've died!

- A terrific way of getting rights and independence the Hamas has. Let's kill lots of citizens, maybe they'll give us presents.

- Hamas teaches hate for Israel from youth. They are no short of cancer, and their destruction is fully justified. For the sake of both peoples.

And one should note that this response is against Hamas and not Gaza, nor the Palestenians, nor the Palestinean Authority which is based out of the West Bank. It's not like Hamas is friendly toward the PA. Given the fact that Hamas will indescriminately kill anyone for any reason (and also recently approved crucifiction as a means of punishment/death sentence), it's hard to argue that such a barbaric society should be defended.

Palestineans need to wake up, move out of Gaza, and in to the general Isralei populace. Why fight for a home land free of Jews when you could seek far better economic prosperity by joining with them?

It is not who they are looking for, but what they are attempting to accomplish. From what I have read, the goal of the ground offensive is to target both the pads which Hamas uses to launch rockets into Israel and Hamas' infrastructure. Considering the statements by certain members of Hamas and the Israeli army and government, this is going to be a long conflict. In other words, there is not going to be an immediate cease-fire as most international bodies desire. Unfortunately, both Palestinian and Israeli civilians will continue to suffer.

so are you saying that the media faked the aftermath/occurence of the rocket attacks, bribed the independant bloggers/youtubers, and bribed one of my classmates who was in the region with family over winter break?

The only part of my post that has anything to do with the media is that hamas/militants fired hundreds of rockets first.

Hamas runs on a mandate of getting rid of israel, and if I'm not mistaken the only two surrounding arab countries that recognize israels right to exist are egypt and jordan.  (who only recognized israels right to exist after israel beat them back with a big stick when attacked).  syria was working towards recognition with turkey as the mediator, but I haven't heard much about that.

If only it were so easy. It's a whole change in perception for those people. I can see it as the long term objective - but it'll take LONG before what you suggest actually gets into motion.

Ah, and red text too. I forgot to mention that, thanks stickball.

Because the US will support anything that Israel does. They could be frying up babies to make latkas, and we would blame Hamas.