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Dryden said:
megaman79 said:

Its not fair when one company deliberatly prices their product cheaper with the aim of eliminating their competition bcoz they cant price that product at the same price. Its anti competitive and there should be laws against it unless your happy shopping at starbucks, mcdonalds, wallmart and target for the rest of your life.

I like netscape, MS used this same tactic.

This goes back to the original PlayStation -- Sony were the pioneers of dumping to put their competitors out of business. The day Sega announced the Saturn was going to be $399 at E3, the Sony keynote speaker walked up to the podium 15 mintues later and said, "two-hundred and ninety-nine dollars," then turned right back around and walked off. There had already been a furor over whether or not Sega, Nintendo, 3DO, Atari, and/or others would file a joint lawsuit against Sony to stop the PlayStation's release in North America on the premise of "dumping" (deliberately selling a product overseas at a loss and significantly less than your domestic price, just to stifle competition).

One of the reasons Sony was able to weather the losses on the original PlayStation is that they cut every corner they could to get the price as low as possible in manufacture. One example being that nearly the entire laser assembly was constructed from plastic. This was later discovered to be susceptible to warping and caused a number of failures in the first gen units. Oh well. Another crucial decision was having the PS built around a flimsy, but cheap, clamshell lid instead of a tray or slot loading drive.

With the PS3, Sony went 'wrong' in just about every aspect and unnecessarily drove up the price of the console. Microsoft, on the other hand, cut every corner they could. Sure, Microsoft's reliability was terrible at first, but then, so was Sony's back in 1995. All Microsoft has done is copy Sony's own business model from 15 years ago.

 

Yep, welcome to multinational conglomerates owning the vodeogame industry. You all better be thankfull that atleast we've still got one "true" game company making systems. Granted Santa's (shigeru) gone a bit crazy lately but he's still got the magic.

Lets not forget the quality of Nintendo products. Never has anything of theirs been crappy built.



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Yeap, it'll be 2 years in a row.



Prediction:

TGS this year for PS3 will be amazing.

Grandia comes to PSN(PSone classic).

First Versus gameplay this year.

The Adventures Of Duane and Brando

There is one thing for sure, PS3 will sell more in 2009 than in 2008. But by how much? That's the question and it depends on several variables, most important of which is a possible price cut. Whether or not it will sell more than 360 is unclear.



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freedquaker said:

There is one thing for sure, PS3 will sell more in 2009 than in 2008. But by how much? That's the question and it depends on several variables, most important of which is a possible price cut. Whether or not it will sell more than 360 is unclear.

 

How is that for sure? Perhaps with a price cut, that's a sure thing, but things are looking like a price cut would be damaging when the company is in need of money.



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Sony's had their years already...you should have cherished them a bit more!



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In terms of quality of games then 2008 and 2009 are Sony's years.

Just goes to show having a stellar library doesn't equate to stellar sales.



Goddbless said:
Sony's had their years already...you should have cherished them a bit more!

 

no doubt, 10 yr cycle. The only question is will Nintendo be no.1 for the next 8 yrs. Id say yep



“When we make some new announcement and if there is no positive initial reaction from the market, I try to think of it as a good sign because that can be interpreted as people reacting to something groundbreaking. ...if the employees were always minding themselves to do whatever the market is requiring at any moment, and if they were always focusing on something we can sell right now for the short term, it would be very limiting. We are trying to think outside the box.” - Satoru Iwata - This is why corporate multinationals will never truly understand, or risk doing, what Nintendo does.

alpha_dk said:
RAZurrection said:
Gearbox said:

3. HUGE linup. Uncharted 2, god of war 3, gran turismo 5, killzone 2, infamous, white knight chronicles, ratchet and clank future series, the list goes on.

 

No.

The bolded are 2010 titles and the list really doesn't go on. It's Heavy Rain and thats it.

 

And let's not forget; the bolded are also the only games even close to the level of GTA (GT5) and MGS (God of War), and we all know how those huge games didn't turn into anything. 

This arguement could just as easily have been written in 2007 about 2008.  I see no reason to assume it will work out differently this time.

GTA was multiplat. Multiplats don't give sales boosts.

And I'd say MGS' effect was pretty impressive. The PS3 beat the Wii that week and outsold the 360 3 to 1.

 



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colonelstubbs said:
No, it wont be sonys year.

Also, is 'lets talk' your version of snake612's real talk?

Who died and made u god? Oh, wait, u own an xbox now, don't u?

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LOL, hasn't anybody learnt yet to never say never? Fanboy pride, huh...



Playing and finishing games first>>>>>>>>>>Then talking!

Opinions are subjective and just like moods, can change.

TOP 12: Deus Ex, Shadow Man, Castlevania: Symphony of the Night, Shin Megami Tensei: Nocturn, Castlevania: Lords of Shadow, Metroid Prime, Zelda (series), Uncharted (series), FF Tactics, Persona (series), Demons Souls, Vagrant Story.

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