wkc sold decently , hopefully it can sell here in the states.

ToS2: 120k | 150k
ToV: 70k | 107k

JRPGs sell the bulk of their LTD sales on the first day. If you expect 200k first week for WKC I think you'll be dissapointed.

Edit: Well it's not THAT much different from the 360 RPG's is it? It will probably sell somehwere in the 200k's.

This is a big budget, heavily advertised RPG. Comparing sales with a spin off on the wii and saying since its first day sales beat it that this is a success is crazy. This will not beat the takes sales by that much. Then, compare the budgets. To say this is an accomplishment is crazy.

LoL, can`t wait for 1st weeks sales.
This is just 1st day sales. =))

Anyway, this proves 1,5-2 mln. first week FFXIII sales in Japan. :)

p.s. i just don`t undesrtand, why WKC is still sold out on amazon in Japan...
http://www.amazon.co.jp/gp/bestsellers/videogames/ref=pd_dp_ts_vg_1
i hope, they get more shipments tomorrow. :)

p.p.s. I wish, Sony would bundle WKC, like M$ did with BD, ES, ToV... =))
Then sales would be like 250-300k first week.))

The game is a success the way I see it.

And I thought this was all about install base?

...360 diversion teknik*yawns*

isn't IU tLR budgeted and advertized too? :D

So...what you're saying is that:

A. Level-5 means nothing in Japan.

B. ToS2, a spinoff jrpg, actually has an advantage over a new Level-5 IP on a jrpg starved console?

C. Having 3 times the userbase is no advantage whatsoever?

Wrong.

Level 5 is huge in Japan, and their titles sell well.

I thought the Wii was a "casual" console. Are core jrpgs supposed to well well on it? Also...it's a spinoff. The flagship title was Vesperia and Tales fans know it.

Having larger userbase is a big advantage. Just look at how a big PS3 game sells compared to a big 360 game. Use MGS4. The userbase is closing, and now games on the PS3 are starting to match 360 games sales. Sony fans have used the userbase argument for 2 years, and it's valid.

WKS is a relative success if it can break 200k. Still, at 200k, it's really not that significant. No PS360 game has been yet, in Japan. Not on the world stage. That won't happen until FFXIII. WKS sold about as well as Vesperia, considering userbase, and that's being generous. Do you really expect anyone to drop their jaws over 200k sales?

IU and TLR have crap sales too. Those budgets are not sustainable. That's what the point is. RPGs on the wii would sell as well or better than the same ones on ps3/360 in japan and have a significantly lower budget.

ToS: DotNW had a significantly smaller budget than either WNC, IU or TLR. It will have similar sales. Maybe a little bit lower than WKC, and higher than the other two. Tales was advertised less and is considered a spinoff, which automatically means lower sales than the flagship series. So my question to you is: which one is considered the success? Which one made the most profit?

I'm pretty sure the only one that made a profit is tales, the other games were funded by MS or Sony, that's really the only reason they are exclusive and that companies can afford to do this.  WKC still has a chance with good western sales but i'm gonna have to see it to believe it.  PS3 hasn't proven this type of game will sell yet.

Outside of Professor Layton and Dragon Quest 8, no game has sold really well in Japan.

Rogue Galaxy did 350k in Japan, but both of the Dark Cloud games did worse as did Jeanne d'arc.

Dark Cloud 1 did, however, sell VERY well in the West.