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Kasz216 said:
CGI-Quality said:
^ Are you saying Sony paid for WKC?

Well yeah... that's pretty much how most publishing deals go.

 

 

sony doesn't exactly pay for them they work with the publisher to create some kind of friendship, and if the games do well they buy the whole studio later.

 



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Jo21 said:
Kasz216 said:
CGI-Quality said:
^ Are you saying Sony paid for WKC?

Well yeah... that's pretty much how most publishing deals go.

 

 

sony doesn't exactly pay for them they work with the publisher to create some kind of friendship, and if the games do well they buy the whole studio later.

 

Yeah... Sony gets to publish WKC for free because they're "Freinds".

Nevermind plenty of publishing houses would pay for that right.

So they changed their buisness practices back during the PS1 days then?

When they payed for FF7 and 3 other Square RPGS.  (Final Fantasy Tactics and 2 others.... they got right of first refusual in those 3 when they bought 7 and advertised it heavily.)



Jo21 said:
Rei said:
Meh, some people are already trying to make a big deal out of nothing. 132.000 is a decent result but it is nothing to brag about. And has anybody ever said that PS3 cant sell jRPGs in Japan? Link please because I dont remember a single person here saying something as stupid as this.

I can only remember people saying PS3 is not capable of selling jRPGs worldwide. I am one of those people and i still do think that way.

 

mrstickball said:
Torillian - Because everything else got a massive boost far exceeding LBP?

I mean, LBP could, and should get a boost come December. Problem is, that boost may get it to 250-300k for December. That'd put LBP at a very sad total for the EOY, and well under 1m sold through in the US.

That also means that VGC overtracked Valkyria by quite a large sum, and VC sold less than what ToV did in one week in August...For the US.

I guess the Playstation 3 really can't sell JRPGs. Even less so than the X360.

 

Good one, Jo!

 



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Dgc1808 said:
Euphoria14 said:
Torillian said:
Euphoria14 said:

@ Torillian

We need to have a good JRPG discussion.

I am also picking up Valkyria Chronicles in an hour or so.

Seems great minds think alike.

 

Always love having a discussion on JRPGs, and I hope you enjoy VC as much as I did.  Fulfilled almost all of my hopes for the game, the only thing I wished it had done better was to delve a little deaper into the war storyline and make it more like playing a WWII movie, I think that could make a great JRPG.

I forget, have you gotten Persona 4 yet?  It's another title that really hit the sweet spot for and hit all of my hopes in what it would be.

I have not picked up P4 yet, I was deciding between that and VC and since VC is already vanishing from my local stores due to not selling well enough I thought it would be smarter to grab that first. I will at some point get both, but for now I have to go with VC.

We should seriously have a RPG conversation though, would be fun times.

I'll send you a message on PSN with my impressions of VC. By the way, The Last Remnant is actually pretty damn cool, I like the battle style (of course, Team SaGa = Greatest Devs ever).If and when it comes to PS3 you shold give it a rent.

 

 

 

WHAT!!??

Hope my cousin doesn't have trouble finding my copy today D=.....

Well, if it makes you feel any beter "local stores" means everything in my area other than Gamestop. You will probably still find it there right now although they carry very few.

@Mr. Stickball

Alright, I look forward to your review.

 



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GOOD WKC FIRST DAY SALES. =)
PS3 is HOME for JRPG games in Japan. :)

Around 200k first week also very good for a new IP in Japan. :)
PS3 FTW!



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2009.04.30 - PS3 will OUTSELL x360 atleast by the middle of 2010. Japan+Europe > NA.


Gran Turismo 3 - 1,06 mln. in 3 weeks with around 4 mln. PS2 on the launch.
Gran Turismo 4 - 1,16 mln. with 18 mln. PS2 on the launch.

Final Fantasy X - around 2 mln. with 5 mln. PS2 on the launch.
Final Fantasy X-2 - 2.4 mln. with 12 mln. PS2 on the launch.

 

1.8 mln. PS3 today(2008.01.17) in Japan. Now(2009.04.30) 3.16 mln. PS3 were sold in Japan.
PS3 will reach 4 mln. in Japan by the end of 2009 with average weekly sales 25k.

PS3 may reach 5 mln. in Japan by the end of 2009 with average weekly sales 50k.
PS2 2001 vs PS3 2008 sales numbers =) + New games released in Japan by 2009 that passed 100k so far

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Kasz216 said:
Jo21 said:
Kasz216 said:
CGI-Quality said:
^ Are you saying Sony paid for WKC?

Well yeah... that's pretty much how most publishing deals go.

 

 

sony doesn't exactly pay for them they work with the publisher to create some kind of friendship, and if the games do well they buy the whole studio later.

 

Yeah... Sony gets to publish WKC for free because they're "Freinds".

Nevermind plenty of publishing houses would pay for that right.

So they changed their buisness practices back during the PS1 days then?

When they payed for FF7 and 3 other Square RPGS.  (Final Fantasy Tactics and 2 others.... they got right of first refusual in those 3 when they bought 7 and advertised it heavily.)

No they get to publish it because Level5 President hates Microsoft to the bone after the True Fantasy Live Online fiasco (funny to see L5 did with WKC what they wanted to achieve with TFLO).

 



Videogirl said:
Kasz216 said:
Jo21 said:
Kasz216 said:
CGI-Quality said:
^ Are you saying Sony paid for WKC?

Well yeah... that's pretty much how most publishing deals go.

 

 

sony doesn't exactly pay for them they work with the publisher to create some kind of friendship, and if the games do well they buy the whole studio later.

 

Yeah... Sony gets to publish WKC for free because they're "Freinds".

Nevermind plenty of publishing houses would pay for that right.

So they changed their buisness practices back during the PS1 days then?

When they payed for FF7 and 3 other Square RPGS.  (Final Fantasy Tactics and 2 others.... they got right of first refusual in those 3 when they bought 7 and advertised it heavily.)

No they get to publish it because Level5 President hates Microsoft to the bone after the True Fantasy Live Online fiasco (funny to see L5 did with WKC what they wanted to achieve with TFLO).

There are many more publishers then Sony and Microsoft.

Plenty of which that would of been willing to put up cash for the right.



I just don't understand why Sony didn't bundle this game...

Oh wells, I was right for lowering my 250k-300k first week JP sales to 200k after understanding that bundles were to be absent and the 29/40 Famitsu review.



bbsin said:
I just don't understand why Sony didn't bundle this game...

Oh wells, I was right for lowering my 250k-300k first week JP sales to 200k after understanding that bundles were to be absent and the 29/40 Famitsu review.

 

 

Yeah, every somewhat big ps3 game in Japan got bundled, even LBP. Why not WKC?



Euphoria14 said:

Why are people downplaying these sales?

WTF is wrong with people? Seriously, after reading through this entire thread I am fairly certain that some of the people I thought were JRPG fans are nothing more than recent JRPG bandwagon fans who only hopped on because of the 360 grabbing JRPG support because in all honesty before we started hearing about these JRPGs nobody would take the time to mention them. Now these "fans" see a game sell better first day than any other recent HD JRPG this gen did first week and it is "decent".


Make up your minds people on what is good and what isn't. Please go back into the TLR, LO, ToV, BD threads and change "nice sales" to "sales are a joke" because this is what I have gotten out of this thread so far.

I hear "PS3 has a bigger install base" BLAH BLAH BLAH! Which console this generation has moved more consoles to JRPG fans with their recent release of 5-6+ JRPG's this year? I am probably overstating the amount but you get my point. So I don't care who has a bigger install base, who SHOULD have a bigger JRPG fanbase when shifted consoles due to constant JRPG releases come into play? Maybe I am in the minority, who knows, but I would think that a big named JRPG like Tales should sell MUCH better than a new IP like WKC, regardless of install base since that entire install base are not JRPG fans, although in the 360s case considering recent sales, a lot of its install base SHOULD be JRPG fans.

Sorry, I am just kind of annoyed at the "fake" JRPG fans on this site. If you take offense to this comment, then well, I guess you fit into my little group here. If you do not fit into this group, then take no offense, simple as that.

If my rant makes no sense for some reason, oh well, I am tired and at the same time just wished people would stop being such downers all the time.

Damn straight.