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As we all know, he sales numbers tell their story - motion controls is the future in gaming. It's also expected, that Sony and M$ are going to copy and improve the motion controls the Wii has. But, since Nintendo is making a sustaining change, upgrading the Wii Remote with Wii Motion Plus, it's killing the future copycats' possible edge over Nintendo already.

 

Will WM+ effect next gen or not?



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Are you implying that Wii-Motion + is more advanced than whatever motion thingers the competition are making and thus have killed any possible advantage they may have, or are you saying that the competition simply can't do any better than WM+ because it's as good as motion controls can get?

Also, for someone so well versed on the expansion strategy Nintendo is using to attract new gamers, this argument seems very ignorant on your part and below what I would expect you to say. It should be obvious to you that Sony and MS could mimic and better the motion functions and still not hit the expanded audience at all without other factors present. None of which either company has shown they possess.



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Just because motion controls are the thing now, does not mean that they will still be the most popular type of control in 3-4 years



Munkeh111 said:
Just because motion controls are the thing now, does not mean that they will still be the most popular type of control in 3-4 years

That's a very good point. If Nintendo decides to move in a different direction, they will move the forward trend of controls with them.

 



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Onyxmeth said:
Munkeh111 said:
Just because motion controls are the thing now, does not mean that they will still be the most popular type of control in 3-4 years

That's a very good point. If Nintendo decides to move in a different direction, they will move the forward trend of controls with them.

 

 

 

I can guarantee We will never see another major console that ONLY offers a traditional controller.



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Onyxmeth said:

Are you implying that Wii-Motion + is more advanced than whatever motion thingers the competition are making and thus have killed any possible advantage they may have, or are you saying that the competition simply can't do any better than WM+ because it's as good as motion controls can get?

Also, for someone so well versed on the expansion strategy Nintendo is using to attract new gamers, this argument seems very ignorant on your part and below what I would expect you to say. It should be obvious to you that Sony and MS could mimic and better the motion functions and still not hit the expanded audience at all without other factors present. None of which either company has shown they possess.

 

 

I think the problem with Microsoft and Sony now is, the methods the wiimote utilizes has now become the "standard" for how motion controlls should be done. How do MS and Sony go forward without stepping on Nintendo's toes (and their lawyers)? There's definately room for improvement, but I feel either of those two companies are at a risk of putting themselves in a corner they won't be able to get out of, if they too far forward with their "mii too" strategy.

 

 



 

Onyxmeth said:

Are you implying that Wii-Motion + is more advanced than whatever motion thingers the competition are making and thus have killed any possible advantage they may have, or are you saying that the competition simply can't do any better than WM+ because it's as good as motion controls can get?

Also, for someone so well versed on the expansion strategy Nintendo is using to attract new gamers, this argument seems very ignorant on your part and below what I would expect you to say. It should be obvious to you that Sony and MS could mimic and better the motion functions and still not hit the expanded audience at all without other factors present. None of which either company has shown they possess.

 

The idea behind my thought was the way how things have went so far. D-pad and buttons to D-pad and a larger number of buttons (including the shoulder buttons), analog stick to two analog sticks and so on. Even what Sony did as soon as Nintendo unvieled the Wii Remote, was to add the motion controls - with more axis, basically what WM+ does too. But Sonys problem was, that it just added a (part of the) functionality, not the way the remote is used and the "full" functionality. Basically Nintendo set the standard and Sony already have followed (among a few other companies), so the direction itself is pretty clear. Of course, the functionality itself can be made better and improved, but the key element is the 1:1 motions, which basically are "as good as it gets" with WM+ (despite there being room for improvement). If i'd make a bet, the biggest improvement to the WM+ controls next gen, will be full positioning in 3D space (what may be overshooting the customer), which is limited with Wii and WM+.



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I think that Sony is unlikely to adopt motion controls and will stick to the traditional controller in an attempt to sell to the motion-hating super-hardcore. Some of the comments made about the Wii by Sony execs seem to support this idea. Microsoft, on the other hand, has shown with their Avatars that they are prepared to move somewhat in Nintendo's direction. I think that Microsoft will go motion next gen but Sony will flee to the super-harcore and go niche with traditional controls.



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Onyxmeth said:
Munkeh111 said:
Just because motion controls are the thing now, does not mean that they will still be the most popular type of control in 3-4 years

That's a very good point. If Nintendo decides to move in a different direction, they will move the forward trend of controls with them.

 

 

 

I can guarantee We will never see another major console that ONLY offers a traditional controller.

Depending on how they play it, you might not have any standard controllers at all. Nintendo has set the future gen's controls and the others follow. Sure we still have D-pads, but that's implemented on top of the analog, and now those two will be implemented on top of the motion/IR. So I doubt we'll see too many standard controllers without at least the wiimote's capabilities at least.

 



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Id rather sony continued to evolve the PS Controller they already have rather than attempt to do more motion control and follow Nintendo. There are very few games I would ever want to play that would utilize motion control. The Wiimote and the kinds of games the Wii has are the primary reasons why my Wii collects dust.



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