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The last few years Ive brought this thread out around Christmas time to look over our predictions of old. to see where we are now compared to where we thought we would be.  with the generation going the way it has there may be 2 or more years of bringing this thread back before the end of the gen. that is if the mods don't lock it.
on topic, im really quite amazed at how tight the race has become. a price drop by each of them is almost certain next year, i feel the ps3 will benefit more from the drop then the 360. I do not see a change of positions in the next year though the difference may become a statistical tie in the next two years. the ps3 may indeed pull out ahead, but as of right now i do not see it happening until after the next generation of consoles comes out



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I am pretty sure PS3 will outsell the 360 by the end of next year. With the stellar line-up next year, which looks two times better than even 2009, its pretty much bound to sell well. If not then it will outsell it by q1 2012.



mantlepiecek said:

I am pretty sure PS3 will outsell the 360 by the end of next year. With the stellar line-up next year, which looks two times better than even 2009, its pretty much bound to sell well. If not then it will outsell it by q1 2012.


Unless PS3 gets a price drop and 360 DOESN'T get a matching price drop, that simply isn't going to happen. I see very few PS3 titles that are of the system moving variety in 2011. At the end of this year 360 will have about a 4.7 million lead on PS3. Sony isn't going to sell 4.7 million more PS3s than MS sells 360s in 2011.

I expect both PS3 and 360 to get price drops in 2011,  earlier in the year, in fact, maybe around E5. I think a $150-$170 360 Arcade, $250 Kinect 4gig 360 and $350 Kinect 250 gig 360 will move a ton of units. $150 would be a very sweet price point.

PS3 will probably go down to $250 for the non-Move SKU and $350 for the Move SKU IMO.

My guess is that with continued momentum from Kinect in 2011 along with a price drop into the sub $200 area, 360 will INCREASE its lead on PS3 next year worldwide. Move simply isn't the system mover that Kinect is.



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pachoo5 said:
mantlepiecek said:

I am pretty sure PS3 will outsell the 360 by the end of next year. With the stellar line-up next year, which looks two times better than even 2009, its pretty much bound to sell well. If not then it will outsell it by q1 2012.


Unless PS3 gets a price drop and 360 DOESN'T get a matching price drop, that simply isn't going to happen. I see very few PS3 titles that are of the system moving variety in 2011. At the end of this year 360 will have about a 4.7 million lead on PS3. Sony isn't going to sell 4.7 million more PS3s than MS sells 360s in 2011.

I expect both PS3 and 360 to get price drops in 2011,  earlier in the year, in fact, maybe around E5. I think a $150-$170 360 Arcade, $250 Kinect 4gig 360 and $350 Kinect 250 gig 360 will move a ton of units. $150 would be a very sweet price point.

PS3 will probably go down to $250 for the non-Move SKU and $350 for the Move SKU IMO.

My guess is that with continued momentum from Kinect in 2011 along with a price drop into the sub $200 area, 360 will INCREASE its lead on PS3 next year worldwide. Move simply isn't the system mover that Kinect is.


Move doesn't need to be the system seller. PS3 already has got the boost from and now it needs other things to boost it.

Price cut will help the PS3, however its not gonna happen till oct 2011. 360 may lower its price(hardly probably) but its still will get beat by PS3, especially during the non-holidays when the PS3 will sell a lot more than both wii and 360.

Kinect boost will end with the holidays. After that, it will just be the normal boost, and the 360 will be below PS3 overall, at least that's what I think. 

People seem to forget that just because of the move PS3 did DS numbers during non-holidays, something that's very difficult for any console to do. If PS3 ends keeping that kind of momentum next year then it will outsell 360 by at least q1 2012, even when you factor kinect.

If however, kinect ends up selling well during non-holidays(very difficult to imagine, but very possible as well) then PS3 will have a lot of problem. Sony might have to rely on a price cut eventually.



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mantlepiecek said:
pachoo5 said:
mantlepiecek said:

I am pretty sure PS3 will outsell the 360 by the end of next year. With the stellar line-up next year, which looks two times better than even 2009, its pretty much bound to sell well. If not then it will outsell it by q1 2012.


Unless PS3 gets a price drop and 360 DOESN'T get a matching price drop, that simply isn't going to happen. I see very few PS3 titles that are of the system moving variety in 2011. At the end of this year 360 will have about a 4.7 million lead on PS3. Sony isn't going to sell 4.7 million more PS3s than MS sells 360s in 2011.

I expect both PS3 and 360 to get price drops in 2011,  earlier in the year, in fact, maybe around E5. I think a $150-$170 360 Arcade, $250 Kinect 4gig 360 and $350 Kinect 250 gig 360 will move a ton of units. $150 would be a very sweet price point.

PS3 will probably go down to $250 for the non-Move SKU and $350 for the Move SKU IMO.

My guess is that with continued momentum from Kinect in 2011 along with a price drop into the sub $200 area, 360 will INCREASE its lead on PS3 next year worldwide. Move simply isn't the system mover that Kinect is.


Move doesn't need to be the system seller. PS3 already has got the boost from and now it needs other things to boost it.

Price cut will help the PS3, however its not gonna happen till oct 2011. 360 may lower its price(hardly probably) but its still will get beat by PS3, especially during the non-holidays when the PS3 will sell a lot more than both wii and 360.

Kinect boost will end with the holidays. After that, it will just be the normal boost, and the 360 will be below PS3 overall, at least that's what I think. 

People seem to forget that just because of the move PS3 did DS numbers during non-holidays, something that's very difficult for any console to do. If PS3 ends keeping that kind of momentum next year then it will outsell 360 by at least q1 2012, even when you factor kinect.

If however, kinect ends up selling well during non-holidays(very difficult to imagine, but very possible as well) then PS3 will have a lot of problem. Sony might have to rely on a price cut eventually.

I see no reason why Kinect will stop selling as soon as the holidays are over. If anything, it looks like it will have quite long legs.



KBG29 said:
@ Lost tears of Kain

Well GT sales are double that of Halo. So that would mean GT5 price drop 2x> Halo 3 price drop.

Their is IMO no way the 360 can stay ahead of the PS3 all of next year. Sony just has to many big name exclusives coming. MGS is going to sell a lot of consoles in all three regions, the Average consumer is going to get PS3 for GTA, GT5 is the best selling first party game in the last to generations, Devil May Cry will be more PS3 in Japan, Final Fantasy is going to mave many many consoles in japan, and if Home takes off that is a big problem for the 360. The 360 just can not keep pace with the PS3 in japan and Europe, and that is why it will get passed. I think this is possible by next dec. 31:

PS3
Japan - 5 Million
USA - 12 Milllion
Europe - 9 Million
Total - 26 Million

360
Japan - 900k
USA - 16 Million
Europe - 7 Million (optimistic)
Total - 22.9 Million

This is just HIL-ARI-OUS

2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010



 

it will eventually.

 

alot going for it to pass 360:

 

 

pricecuts and alot of them

mega exclusive line-up 2011(especially AGENT,FF13VERSUS)



last year the ps3 taking second was inevitable, this year it is out of the question, next year it will of course happen, year after that ps3 is doomed again...

..such an interesting gen.  or maybe just a huge amount of short sidedness.  love it. xD



Seece said:
KBG29 said:
@ Lost tears of Kain

Well GT sales are double that of Halo. So that would mean GT5 price drop 2x> Halo 3 price drop.

Their is IMO no way the 360 can stay ahead of the PS3 all of next year. Sony just has to many big name exclusives coming. MGS is going to sell a lot of consoles in all three regions, the Average consumer is going to get PS3 for GTA, GT5 is the best selling first party game in the last to generations, Devil May Cry will be more PS3 in Japan, Final Fantasy is going to mave many many consoles in japan, and if Home takes off that is a big problem for the 360. The 360 just can not keep pace with the PS3 in japan and Europe, and that is why it will get passed. I think this is possible by next dec. 31:

PS3
Japan - 5 Million
USA - 12 Milllion
Europe - 9 Million
Total - 26 Million

360
Japan - 900k
USA - 16 Million
Europe - 7 Million (optimistic)
Total - 22.9 Million

This is just HIL-ARI-OUS

2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010


Thanks for showing me this post. It gave me a good laugh. I still can't forget Home being a killer app!