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Just_Ben on 09 August 2007
Hus said:
El Duderino said:

 

@Hus, you could be right but untill we europeans stop beeing pissed of because of the price and the launch delay and the emotion engine I don´t see it taking off eather, the Playstation 2 name is strong but its not rubbing of on the PS3 yet

I really do think the PS3 can catch (and take down) the 360 because of japan and the strong brandname, it will just take longer than Sony and PS3 fans would like... there will be no domination (overrated anyway) for the PS brand this time around, 3rd parties can´t cancentrate on eather the PS3 or the 360 and make a maximum profit, thats the main reason IMO


Do you look at the sky and tell people its green ?

PS3 is outselling the 360 in almost every european market, PS3 lacks must have software and it is twice the 360 price in some areas. If its not strong brand name selling it then what the hell is, seriously ?

 

 


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Darc Requiem on 09 August 2007

Hey Witeout King. Don't you hate it when you take the time to type a well thought out, detailed post, and no one reads it?



El Duderino on 09 August 2007
Hus said:
El Duderino said:

 

@Hus, you could be right but untill we europeans stop beeing pissed of because of the price and the launch delay and the emotion engine I don´t see it taking off eather, the Playstation 2 name is strong but its not rubbing of on the PS3 yet

I really do think the PS3 can catch (and take down) the 360 because of japan and the strong brandname, it will just take longer than Sony and PS3 fans would like... there will be no domination (overrated anyway) for the PS brand this time around, 3rd parties can´t cancentrate on eather the PS3 or the 360 and make a maximum profit, thats the main reason IMO


Do you look at the sky and tell people its green ?

PS3 is outselling the 360 in almost every european market, PS3 lacks must have software and it is twice the 360 price in some areas. If its not strong brand name selling it then what the hell is, seriously ?

 

 

1. I´m a gamer I have yet to see a real sky...does it look like in Crysis ???

2. I´m not looking at the current PS3 sales in europe and saying the 360 is selling better, I just think the hollyday season will be better for the 360, since the price will be more important and the RROD will not be haunting it (if MS doesn´t screw up), could I be wrong ?... of course, do we know that now ?...no we don´t

 @Just_Ben: Don´t tell Hus to "Quit Fu**ing Trolling" he can say what he wants.



 

 

 

WiteoutKing on 09 August 2007
Darc Requiem said:
Hey Witeout King. Don't you hate it when you take the time to type a well thought out, detailed post, and no one reads it?

 Yeah, it's sort of a bummer :P  I figured I'd get a few more responses out of it, heh.



PS3: 5.51m/51w, avg 108,039/w (up 239)
360: 12.93m/102w, avg 126,764/w (up 625), leads PS3 by 7.42m (up 70k), avg lead 18,725/w (up 386)
Wii: 13.52m/51w, avg 265,098/w (dn 1,102), leads PS3 by 8.01m (up 90k), avg lead 157,059/w (dn 1,341)

If 360 sales stabilize, PS3 sales increases needed to pass 360 by...
01/08: (008w) +875.8%, 04/08: (021w) +344.4%, 07/08: (034w) +219.3%, 10/08: (047w) +163.5%
01/09: (060w) +131.8%, 04/09: (073w) +111.4%, 07/09: (085w) +098.1%, 10/09: (099w) +086.7%
If Wii sales stabilize, PS3 sales increases needed to pass Wii by...
01/08: (008w) +1072.%, 04/08: (021w) +498.4%, 07/08: (034w) +363.4%, 10/08: (047w) +303.1%
01/09: (060w) +269.0%, 04/09: (073w) +246.9%, 07/09: (085w) +232.6%, 10/09: (099w) +220.3%
If PS2 sales freeze, Wii sales increases needed to pass PS2 (as of Mar07, 108.4m) by...
2008: (008w) +4373.8%, 2009: (060w) +0496.5%, 2010: (112w) +0219.6%, 2011: (165w) +0116.9%
2012: (217w) +0064.9%, 2013: (269w) +0033.1%, 2014: (321w) +0011.5%, 2015: (376w) -0004.8%
At +0% it will pass it in 358w, the week ending September 19th, 2014, at an age of 409w (7y44w).
Current age of PS2: 7y37w.

Last update: Week ending November 3, 2007

dtewi on 09 August 2007

jjseth, you're basically saying that strating NOW the PS3 will move over 200000 a week, basically becoming another Wii, and will coninue that way into the end of 2008 and surpass the 360? Because doesn't that seem extreme.



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leo-j on 09 August 2007
dtewi said:
jjseth, you're basically saying that strating NOW the PS3 will move over 200000 a week, basically becoming another Wii, and will coninue that way into the end of 2008 and surpass the 360? Because doesn't that seem extreme.

We might see a huge holiday season in 07, maybe bigger than 360 was last year.



 

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dtewi on 09 August 2007

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dtewi on 09 August 2007

"We might see a huge holiday season in 07, maybe bigger than 360 was last year"

Well that might shorten the lead by like 50,000 units, but the PS3 simply can't sell 200,000 a week in '08.



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Sugu yoko de waratteita

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Darc Requiem on 09 August 2007
WiteoutKing said:
Darc Requiem said:
Hey Witeout King. Don't you hate it when you take the time to type a well thought out, detailed post, and no one reads it?

Yeah, it's sort of a bummer :P I figured I'd get a few more responses out of it, heh.


Nah, the standard modus operandi is to just ignore well thought out posts and keep posting FUD. I had a similiar issue with a posts that I have made. Basically, if you post a good argument backed up by several supporting facts, they can't refute or dissent intelligently so they just ignore it and keep posting nonsense. Or worse, you end up stating the same point over and over again because they keep posting nonsense that a prior post you've made had already refuted. But we have to try, keep up the good work man. You are not alone



JDWolf36 on 09 August 2007
Thought I'd just add to this a bit with some numbers since percentages don't always get picked up well.

January 1, 2008:(21 weeks) 280.6% increase (near quadruple) About 300k more a week than the 360

April 1, 2008: (34 weeks) 176.1% increase (near triple) About 180k more a week than the 360

July 1, 2008: (47 weeks) 129.4% increase About 130k more a week than the 360

October 1, 2008: (60 weeks) 102.9% increase (more than double) About 100k more a week than the 360

January 1, 2009: (73 weeks) 85.9% increase About 85k more a week than the 360

April 1, 2009: (86 weeks) 74.0% increase About 70k more a week than the 360

July 1, 2009: (98 weeks) 65.8% increase About 63k more a week than the 360

October 1, 2009: (112 weeks) 58.5% increase About 55k more a week than the 360

January 1, 2010: (124 weeks) 53.5% increase About 50k more a week than the 360


Add in for comparison that last week before the Xbox360 semi annouced price drop and with the PS3 just 4 weeks into its 100 dollar price drop the 360 was outsold by about 40k and during the largest non launch week essentially which was last week for the PS3 it outsold the Xbox360 w/w by just 57k its hard to justify a huge increase in sales. Also of note if you look back at a fairly huge game for the PS2 like FFX you can see that it increases sales for about 2 weeks and no where near 100% of double sales it increased sales prior to its release by 77% I'd imagine that is what we would also see from FFXIII or a game like Metal Gear Solid. Anyways make your own judgement from that information and the fact that it took the Wii at its current levels of sales what will be more than 9 months to catch the 360.