Really I can take back what I said about the developers...seriously its not a big deal with me that they can't push the hardware to its limit...The PS3 is new so its going to be hard at the beginning to program for....the Xbox 360 already has a head start because it came out first....so its easier to develop games on that system then the PS3....also the Wii architecture is similar to the Gamecube so developers had no problem with switching to the Wii...so really there is no point in telling developers are lazy..its just its way to early to judge a system development....

I didn't think there was a difference watching the crappy gametrailers video, but if you download the 150MB+ High Def. video from IGN, it is a lot more apparent that 60FPS is making the game more fluid on the 360. That said, I preordered it for my Wii. Go figure.

Listen, when sony was addressed of why the madden version of the 360 will run at 60fps and there's wont they said " Its not our hardware, the system is fine, its just that the developers(not trying to be harsh) dont spend more time building  the ps3 version of the game, it can run at 60fps its just that they DONT want it to run at 60fps, we would like to help them in this situation, if they ask for it."In other words they are lazy and they are money hungry freaks that make the best things to the console with the most install base. Yes sony did say this but unliucky for me I cant find the artivle it was a gamespot interview.

Umm I was under the impression that each version of Madden 08 was built from the ground up for each console, that's why the Wii version of Madden is so different from some of the other versions.  I don't think there was actually a lead console or that the game was simply ported from the 360 over to the PS3...

I think a major problem is that Sony chose to go with the Cell which is proving to have a steep learning curve and the fact that they've had an additional year of development time on the 360...  Maybe the PS3 will catch up and have a 60fps version of Madden next year but by then it's likely that the 360 version will improve as well... 

Also is it the third party developers' fault that Sony chose to saddle them with a cpu that because of it's differences to previous ones forces developers to spend additional time and resources trying to get the PS3 up to par with the Xbox 360 let alone actually getting to the point where they might eventually be able to make a game that appears superior?

well leo-j you just prove the point.... the hardware is the problem... there is nothing wrong with it... it's just a pain in the ass and nobody wants to make the effort especially a big company like EA.... and the fact they are last on the market right now... those factor combine I totally understand their point... why should they waste time and money on it ?? it's not up to the dev to adapt to the system (yes it is but you see what I mean) it's up to the console maker to make sure it will be adequate for the dev... what I mean is EA doesn't care if the PS3 sell or not and doesn't care if it has good game as long as they make their money overall.... Sony could bankrupt tomorrow it wouldn't change anything for them they'll just focus on the 2 other consoles... ... I mean who sony thought they were ??? like devs were about to bend over for Sony... come on.... they didn't do it for XBL on XB which was way easier than getting use to the cell... I don't know what Sony was thinking

to tell the truth i could tell the difference and there were some instances were the PS3 version looked better....

maybe it was the video?

I would guess it would have more to do with the technical difference between the consoles -- the 360 has:

(1) More available memory after OS footprint + a more flexible memory architecture

(2) Much more general purpose CPU power

(3) Higher fill rate

We may disagree as to why the 360 version runs better than the PS3 version, but the bottom line is that the 360 version looks to provide a better experience. The reasons are, for better or worse, irrelevant.

Leo-j: What Sony said is more or less obvious but it doesn't mean EA is being lazy. The Wii could run Madden at 60fps if the devs wanted to. There are trade-offs. Let's assume for each frame at 60fps that you spend 1/2 of the time rendering graphics. If you drop to 30fps, you may only spend 1/4th of each frame time rendering things -- you can spend more time on AI, physics, etc. A complication arises when you're working with many threads because you can have different threads calculationg the AI, physics and rendering simultaneously. This is the Xbox 360 advantage: it has 6 threads that can be used for such things. The PS3 has two running at the same speed as the 360.

EA is probably not "being lazy" and anyone who uses this for their reasoning most likely has very little understanding about how game engines work. They may simply believe that divergent framerate is the best trade-off when dealing with fewer available general purpose CPU threads.

Consider also that many of EAs games run at 30fps, so another possibility is that they may have written the game targeting PS3 architecture at 30fps and realized that the 360 could do the same thing at 60fps if they offloaded some tasks onto other CPU cores not available on the PS3. If this was the case, why not improve the 360 version where possible?

""""""""""I just wanted to highlight this comment. You will not see any difference whatsoever in this video, because the video isn't running at 60 fps. Makes the whole exercise pretty useless. """"""""

==> so u aggree this video doesnt show anything ??????

Do you people even care about Madden?