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twesterm said:
KylieDog said:
vlad321 said:
KylieDog said:
Comparing Outbreak to L4D is silly. Outbreak actually has real zombies.

 

Depends on your definition of zombie. L4D enemies are very much as zombie-like as Outbreak's.

 

There is only one zombie, and those things in L4D aren't it.

 

Please, I hate purist snobs.  :-p

Zombies are supposed to be terrifying and fast zombies scare the piss out of me.  I would be much more scared of a Left4Dead or 28 Days Later zombie than a 1978 Dawn of the Dead pussy zombie that can be casually shoved away.

Oh no you didn't.



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twesterm said:
KylieDog said:
vlad321 said:
KylieDog said:
Comparing Outbreak to L4D is silly. Outbreak actually has real zombies.

 

Depends on your definition of zombie. L4D enemies are very much as zombie-like as Outbreak's.

 

There is only one zombie, and those things in L4D aren't it.

 

Please, I hate purist snobs.  :-p

Zombies are supposed to be terrifying and fast zombies scare the piss out of me.  I would be much more scared of a Left4Dead or 28 Days Later zombie than a 1978 Dawn of the Dead pussy zombie that can be casually shoved away.

 

Actuallly the Night of the Dead zombies aren't even the actual zombies. It changed the definition of a zombie just as much as 28 Days Later did, therefore if Kylie is going by that definition, those zombies are just as unzombie-like as ours.



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HD vs Wii, PC vs HD: http://www.vgchartz.com/forum/thread.php?id=93374

Why Regenerating Health is a crap game mechanic: http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=3986420

gamrReview's broken review scores: http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=4170835

 

Khuutra said:
twesterm said:
KylieDog said:
vlad321 said:
KylieDog said:
Comparing Outbreak to L4D is silly. Outbreak actually has real zombies.

 

Depends on your definition of zombie. L4D enemies are very much as zombie-like as Outbreak's.

 

There is only one zombie, and those things in L4D aren't it.

 

Please, I hate purist snobs.  :-p

Zombies are supposed to be terrifying and fast zombies scare the piss out of me.  I would be much more scared of a Left4Dead or 28 Days Later zombie than a 1978 Dawn of the Dead pussy zombie that can be casually shoved away.

Oh no you didn't.

 

Are you saying the zombies from the 1978 Dawn of the Dead are scary?  Could you tell me that 100 of those zombies are scarier than 1 28 Days Later zombie?



twesterm said:
Khuutra said:

Oh no you didn't.

 

Are you saying the zombies from the 1978 Dawn of the Dead are scary?  Could you tell me that 100 of zombies are scarier than 1 28 Days Later zombie?

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Wow people love to hate on something they refuse to get. Instead of criticizing this game for what it isn't (a good SP game), enjoy it for what it is (an epic online co-op game). Like someone said above, it's like making fun of unreal for a weak single player.

Something tells me that most people who don't like this game are unable or unwilling to wrap their heads around how this game needs to be played. L4D forces the players to work together, so people used to (or expecting it be like) most FPS games where you are basically super rambo might have some difficulty here. If you have something against playing cooperatively with human teammates, left4dead isn't for you.



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To further clarify I think Romero-style and RE-style zombies are thirty years behind the curve and even the classical voodoo mindlsaves are a lot scarier



Something might come out of this thread after all! On the zombie topic, as stated earlier, the people supporting the Night of the Dead zombies can't even call themselves as purists, since their zombies are also a new form of zombie, jsut like the current definition. However, if we look at the older definitions, anything that is lacing a free will was basically termed a zombie, since, supposedly, thw whole idea came from Voodoo priests from the Caribbean, which came from Africa, and their ability to control humans using certain techniques. Those controlled humans were defined as Zombies.



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HD vs Wii, PC vs HD: http://www.vgchartz.com/forum/thread.php?id=93374

Why Regenerating Health is a crap game mechanic: http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=3986420

gamrReview's broken review scores: http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=4170835

 

I don't think L4D is a bad game by any means, I just definitely don't think it's Game of the Year material, or even "AAA" status if you will. I think it's "ok", and I personally think valve could have done better :P



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ChronotriggerJM said:
I don't think L4D is a bad game by any means, I just definitely don't think it's Game of the Year material, or even "AAA" status if you will. I think it's "ok", and I personally think valve could have done better :P

 

I'm thnking the game was more of a test run for the AI Director. However, even if it was just a test game I still think it's GOTY material.



Tag(thx fkusumot) - "Yet again I completely fail to see your point..."

HD vs Wii, PC vs HD: http://www.vgchartz.com/forum/thread.php?id=93374

Why Regenerating Health is a crap game mechanic: http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=3986420

gamrReview's broken review scores: http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=4170835

 

ChronotriggerJM said:
I don't think L4D is a bad game by any means, I just definitely don't think it's Game of the Year material, or even "AAA" status if you will. I think it's "ok", and I personally think valve could have done better :P

 

I don't know, I mean are there really any valid complaints about the game?

  • No singleplayer - it wasn't meant to be a single player game.
  • Too short - it's a Valve game meaning it's fully customizable and people can make their own content.  Sadly this might be harder for the 360 so I guess that's a valid complaint except...
  • Too short - the game has infinite replayability or at least a lot replayability.  Calling something like this too short is like calling Counter-Strike too short.
  • Graphics - yeah, the Source engine is showing its age but that doesn't mean the graphics are bad.  They nailed the atmosphere in the game and that's the important part.