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Oh boy, another HD-DVD resurrection thread. Even MS knows that would be a waste of money and time.

Frankly, it would be a technical nightmare too. Pretty much every HD-DVD replication line in existence has been scrapped, so simply to choose to go with HD-DVD disc producers would have to buy technology that no one else except Microsoft would need.

That is the definition of a bad idea, and it would probably end up costing MS and people who buy MS's new console more in the long run than anyone else.

HD-DVD is never coming back, ever. Digital distribution only maybe, but once again MS would be hurting the people who buy their console by not even giving them the option to play DVD's, let only Blu-Rays. Its just a bad idea.



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Holographic storage, lulz.





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HD-Dvd is the obvious choice. It doesn't matter that it wont have movies, because digital distribution for movies is going alright on the 360.


They would have to pay less royalties than they currently do for dvd (they own part of it, and toshiba owes them big for the HD-Dvd add-on, which helped the format alot)

If you have dual layer you could easily get 40gb discs, which is plenty



Well whatever ends up happening im sure it wont be a blu-ray/hd-dvd combo drive as that will only increase the price of the console and next gen is gonna be about the price to performance/innovation. The cheaper the better. As i have said earlier Watching Hi-def movies is nice but not an essential feature so i doubt microsoft will support it.

And for all the people that are thinking bout them having a higher end/premium model with Blu-ray support think again because that would allow developers to use blu-ray as a medium for creating games and the lower model wouldnt support it.

If microsoft decides to go Blu-ray (which is highly unlikely imo) they will go all into it and throw in movie playback and games on Blu-ray. They will not use 2 disk formats.



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I think they'll go with a proprietary format since they'll be pushing online distribution pretty hard when the 360's successor comes out.



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akuma587 said:
Oh boy, another HD-DVD resurrection thread. Even MS knows that would be a waste of money and time.

Frankly, it would be a technical nightmare too. Pretty much every HD-DVD replication line in existence has been scrapped, so simply to choose to go with HD-DVD disc producers would have to buy technology that no one else except Microsoft would need.

That is the definition of a bad idea, and it would probably end up costing MS and people who buy MS's new console more in the long run than anyone else.

HD-DVD is never coming back, ever. Digital distribution only maybe, but once again MS would be hurting the people who buy their console by not even giving them the option to play DVD's, let only Blu-Rays. Its just a bad idea.

 

Ok first, no one said resurrect HD DVD as a movie format, I could care less about that crap really (I'm a Blu-ray movie supporter anyway, so don't bring that arguement to me)... we said as a digital storage format.  And it would be no more ridiculous than Nintendo using their own proprietary format as they did in this generation...

And as for costing MS and customers more money in the long run.. exactly how do you figure?  Paying sony royalties is a lot more expensive than using MS' own practically royalty free format.

Lastly, a drive's ability to read HD DVD discs does not in itself prevent the next XBOX from reading standard DVDs as a movie format (and of course backwards compatibility of XBOX 360 titles).  Sony does that now with the dual blue-violet & red lazer in the PS3... it would take little effort to do the same in the next XBOX.

More importantly, a console's ability to play movies is not important in the least bit... the Wii has proven that this generation, and it still controls 50% of the console market.  People don't care if their GAME console plays MOVIES.  The market has already shown that.

Now whether or not that format is good for the next XBOX is certainly up for debate.  Hell, it could be something else that we haven't even fathomed yet.  But a Sony fanboy coming in here and not answering the thread question is just ridiculous.  The question was: WHAT DO YOU THINK MS' NEXT MEDIA FORMAT WILL BE?  Not, why the hell do you not like our ideas...

So if you have a good idea for the next format, tell us, don't just tell us we are wrong... give us an alternative instead of the same Sony fanboy crap.



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Honestly, if they had to, definitely go with HD DVD because for one reason, it'll definitely help reduce piracy. Who can burn HD DVDs out there? It's a dead format, nobody has hd dvd burners, and you can't buy blank hd dvd anymore. Indeed, it would be wise to have HD DVD as their next format and use at least dual layers.



You will be able to take your removable drive to the local store and download a game for a fee. Yeah, that will work...



I’ve no doubt that Microsoft would want to offer games via digital distribution instead of a physical media format, which would be great for their business model of subscription fees. However, whether or not the worldwide infrastructure will be available at the time of release is the only thing stopping them from realising this. That being said, as it’s been mentioned before the ideology of the Xbox/playstation is to control the living room – they want to be the ONLY thing connected to your TV. This will most likely result in a blu-ray player integrated. They could perhaps, offer a digital-distribution only sku with no optical drive for those with Internet plans to support it though.



digital distribution will likely pick up only for portables.

in mass market where people don't get internet access, or still use dial up.... tons of them still and they own HD consoles.
they just live far away.

more likely they will pull a nintendo ask either samsung or panasonic to create a format like GC disc.
based on blu ray tech.