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selnor on 02 December 2008
axumblade said:
selnor said:
axumblade said:
selnor said:
axumblade said:
Neoraf said:

Sony Fanboys always say:
Just wait...

"Wait until..."
"Next year its gonna..."
"The future looks good..."
"I CAN'T WAIT to..."

Big difference:
We enjoy the present.
You hope for something to change.


Last year, over the same period, the PS3Fanboys were saying: "Wait till 2008!! It will fuckin be year of the PS3!!! The game lineup is far superior from the competition! PS3 will rule all!"

Same thing year over year.
Get real.

Microsoft brings the goods each time. They don't need to unveil all their games 1 year early, unlike Sony.
Look at Gears2:
Unveiled in February 2008.
Released in November 2008.

It must be painful to be a Sony fan.
Always hoping for a brighter future.

No. You guys are just as bad. Hello Alex Wake and Halo Wars, missed you in 2008. See you in 2009.

I think yu missed the point of the post. 360 owners dont use wait till Alan Wake as a reason of why the 360 will start outselling the PS3. Oh wait thats because it is outselling the PS3. What the poster meant was that PS3 owners constantly sya that XXXX year or XXXX game will blow 360 sales out of the water. And the last 2 years PS3 has been here it's lost both years.

 

Maybe I'm just picking and choosing what I read but there's only 1 line that even makes reference to the "year of the playstation 3." It's more about the "Delaystation" tone in which he was saying things that got on my nerves. Playstation 3 has released almost every game that was made reference to at E3 this year. Microsoft pull the same crap on a consistant basis as Sony. Look at Too Human, Alex Wake, Halo Wars, and a few others for an example. Microsoft fans don't get overly excited and freak out on forums nearly as much as Sony fans do but it still does happen on an occasion.

Also, a quarter from the year doesn't mean that it outsold it for the year overall. So lets be honest, we all like to pick and choose what we want to hear. And when it comes down to it, Sony and Microsoft will finish the year at relatively the same in sales.

Oh. Also, I was basically defending the fact that I personally enjoy my Ps3 games that are out. I don't think that any of the Sony fans are disappointed with the games that came out tihs year. Yes, We all get hyped up over certain games that are coming out because we're excited over them. And just because we do this, doesn't mean that we don't play the games that have already come out and it doesn't mean that we don't enjoy them just as much as we do hyping new games. And in all honesty, when Gamecube was out and people were saying "hey, this thing is crap. Nintendo are going to never make a console again," they ended up perservering and making a completely new experience. Being in third place could very well help Sony out. And no, this isn't the "Ps4 is going to be the biggest console" comment, it's merely just saying that being in third place tends to inspire a company to just try harder for the next generation.

Also, I recall certain people on the 360 forums pointing out how amazing their games are. And that Tomb Raider Underworld was just as good if not better looking than Uncharted: Drakes Fortune. And that Too Human, Infinite Undiscovery and Last Remnant were going to be the most amazing games of the year. Also saying "Metal Gear Solid IV is going to be ported any day now..." or some other completely straight up crack pot ideas that people on the microsoft forums insist to be the truth and no reviewer, nor gaming site shall tell them otherwise.

I agree with you that M$ do talk about future games. However I disagree with the delaystation part. So many games on PS3 miss their release dates. KZ2 for instance I remember when it was Summer 2007 LOL. GT5 has forever been pushed back as has FF13. Numerous other games have had late releases on PS3 due to dev time. Unfortunatley The PS3 is a delayed console. You would be hard pushed to find any 360 game outside 3 months of it's original target.

 

Those haven't been delayed recently. I had been hearing about 09 releases for Killzone 2 and Gran Turismo (for 2010) since E3. Same with Infamous. And unfortunately, Home will probably end up pushed back. Normally, there is decent quality behind the games that are pushed back so it's not really as big of an issue, I'll just play one of my other dozen games that I need to beat in the first place. I think Sony's main issue with FF is that they didn't push Square Enix nearly enough. I blame it all on Square Enix's indecisiveness over whether to make it a multiplatform. If they'd have announced it sooner than E3, I think FFXIII would have been out by now.

But Sony seem to at least be doing a little better than earlier in the generation (imo).

The other problem is as you mention, the length of development. Imagine if Gears 1 had been in dev as long as KZ2 it most likely would have looked like Gears 2 does. But pretty much have been the same game as originally it was. I'm glad you have games to still play on your PS3, because the owners I know are finding it difficult to want anything other than what they already have. There is to big a gap between the biggies on PS3. And you can quote me but on past record I expect at least 3 of the big games people on this forum state PS3 is getting next year to slip to 2010. Any 360 game M$ say is 2009 on past record I have full confidence. Thats the vision Sony has created for PS3 from my eyes. Very unreliable big game releases, resulting in disappointment.

There is a saying that making people wait to long will have them go elsewhere.

 



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gebx on 02 December 2008
selnor said:
axumblade said:
selnor said:
axumblade said:
Neoraf said:

Sony Fanboys always say:
Just wait...

"Wait until..."
"Next year its gonna..."
"The future looks good..."
"I CAN'T WAIT to..."

Big difference:
We enjoy the present.
You hope for something to change.


Last year, over the same period, the PS3Fanboys were saying: "Wait till 2008!! It will fuckin be year of the PS3!!! The game lineup is far superior from the competition! PS3 will rule all!"

Same thing year over year.
Get real.

Microsoft brings the goods each time. They don't need to unveil all their games 1 year early, unlike Sony.
Look at Gears2:
Unveiled in February 2008.
Released in November 2008.

It must be painful to be a Sony fan.
Always hoping for a brighter future.

No. You guys are just as bad. Hello Alex Wake and Halo Wars, missed you in 2008. See you in 2009.

I think yu missed the point of the post. 360 owners dont use wait till Alan Wake as a reason of why the 360 will start outselling the PS3. Oh wait thats because it is outselling the PS3. What the poster meant was that PS3 owners constantly sya that XXXX year or XXXX game will blow 360 sales out of the water. And the last 2 years PS3 has been here it's lost both years.

 

Maybe I'm just picking and choosing what I read but there's only 1 line that even makes reference to the "year of the playstation 3." It's more about the "Delaystation" tone in which he was saying things that got on my nerves. Playstation 3 has released almost every game that was made reference to at E3 this year. Microsoft pull the same crap on a consistant basis as Sony. Look at Too Human, Alex Wake, Halo Wars, and a few others for an example. Microsoft fans don't get overly excited and freak out on forums nearly as much as Sony fans do but it still does happen on an occasion.

Also, a quarter from the year doesn't mean that it outsold it for the year overall. So lets be honest, we all like to pick and choose what we want to hear. And when it comes down to it, Sony and Microsoft will finish the year at relatively the same in sales.

Oh. Also, I was basically defending the fact that I personally enjoy my Ps3 games that are out. I don't think that any of the Sony fans are disappointed with the games that came out tihs year. Yes, We all get hyped up over certain games that are coming out because we're excited over them. And just because we do this, doesn't mean that we don't play the games that have already come out and it doesn't mean that we don't enjoy them just as much as we do hyping new games. And in all honesty, when Gamecube was out and people were saying "hey, this thing is crap. Nintendo are going to never make a console again," they ended up perservering and making a completely new experience. Being in third place could very well help Sony out. And no, this isn't the "Ps4 is going to be the biggest console" comment, it's merely just saying that being in third place tends to inspire a company to just try harder for the next generation.

Also, I recall certain people on the 360 forums pointing out how amazing their games are. And that Tomb Raider Underworld was just as good if not better looking than Uncharted: Drakes Fortune. And that Too Human, Infinite Undiscovery and Last Remnant were going to be the most amazing games of the year. Also saying "Metal Gear Solid IV is going to be ported any day now..." or some other completely straight up crack pot ideas that people on the microsoft forums insist to be the truth and no reviewer, nor gaming site shall tell them otherwise.

I agree with you that M$ do talk about future games. However I disagree with the delaystation part. So many games on PS3 miss their release dates. KZ2 for instance I remember when it was Summer 2007 LOL. GT5 has forever been pushed back as has FF13. Numerous other games have had late releases on PS3 due to dev time. Unfortunatley The PS3 is a delayed console. You would be hard pushed to find any 360 game outside 3 months of it's original target.

 

 

Sometimes its not even delayed, but its just announced so early that we wait years for the actual product. Look at MAG.. it doesn't even have a real title, MAG is a place holder name till they figure out a name, not only that but the clip shown at E3 was 100% CGI cause the game probably isn't even playable.

Alan Wake, Splinter Cell, and Halo Wars have been delayed but yet aren't hyped everyday by forum members, how many people have either of those titles in their sig or avatars?

 

"And that Too Human, Infinite Undiscovery and Last Remnant were going to be the most amazing games of the year. Also saying "Metal Gear Solid IV is going to be ported any day now...""

Too Human was a dissappointment, everyone had high hopes but the game.. well.. sucked
Infinite Discovery and Last Remnant were never hyped as the most amazing games ever.. not sure what crack pot you smoked, and the last time MGS4 port rumours where brought up was because some Konami dude was quoted as saying that they were looking into it... quick search and found the article on a PS3 forum.. http://www.ps3trophies.org/forum/games/2937-konami-considering-360-port-again.html

So again.. maybe its not the 360 fanboys with "completely straight up crack pot ideas"



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Skeeuk on 02 December 2008
Neoraf said:

The momentum is in Microsoft Hands.

When Sony will cut the prices... do you believe Microsoft will sit and stare?
Microsoft will probably cut another 100$ on Elites, and will replace Arcade by the Pro(60gb) at 199$.

Xbox Live is the online service of choice.
A true social phenomenon.

With all the big 2009 games for Microsoft (Mass Effect 2, Halo Wars, Alan Wake, Star Ocean 4, Halo3 ODST, GTA4 Lost and Damned, Ninja Blade, name it...), I don't know how Sony can gain ground...


well that list is no whre near sonys list............uve named 2w expansion packs,,,,,,,,a halo rts.........masseffect2 which i reckon will be multiplat...........ninja blade and alanwake look good...........but overall sonys list looks staggering imo........all sony need to do is keep pumping out the exclusive games and drop price.............sales dont go in ur hand but games do

...not much time to post anymore, used to be awesome on here really good fond memories from VGchartz...

PSN: Skeeuk - XBL: SkeeUK - PC: Skeeuk

really miss the VGCHARTZ of 2008 - 2013...

FPSrules on 02 December 2008
RPG said:

Remember this?

http://vgchartz.com/forum/thread.php?id=50108

 

Uncharted 2 has been announced and see absolutely no reason why other other things mentioned in that article cannot be true. This means motorstorm and LBP for PSP, Uncharted 2, GOW 3 looking amazing and most importantly for sales the price cut is coming. So with that it's prediction time, how do you think the price cut will affect sales? I think it entirely depends on this size of the price cut, £50 will give a very nice jump but £100 is going to really test the 360. The latter seems very unlikely but a price cut is a price cut, with the great software also coming for PSP and PS3 Sony look to be fighting with all there might. With the PSP also getting all that Square Enix love that should also start shifting software, shame on anyone who pirates PSP games. -_-

Yes I admit I am one of those people that believe that when the PS3 drops $100 the 360 will not stand a chance, so many reasons I think why that will be the case but not going to bother delving into that.

 

 if the price drops by $100, and these upcoming games live up b3yond their hype, i see no reason why ps3 can't dominate in 2009.

idk why MS fanboys are coming to talk shit here, i guess they still haven't relieze that sales don't determine which is better than the other. look at CODWAW, that game sucks ass, but its only a matter of time before it sales 5 million copies just because of how well known the franchise is

im happy with what sony has delievered this year, LBP, Motorstorm 2, Resistance 2, MGS4, and the home beta i got recently and i certanitly enjoy each of them.

i own all 3 consoles, and play a fair amount of games on PC, but i still believe to this day sony's PS3 will defeat xbox 360. and the only thing thats stopping the ps3 from dominating is the price tag. if ps3 outsold 360 in 07 even though 360 having every single advantage, sony can do it again



fulcizombie on 02 December 2008

It seems that similar threads are popping out in every videogames' forum. Some people seem hurt from the latest sales' news.

What's the point really ?? Every sony published game , since the ps3 launch, has been hailed as an "event" by most sony fans. What's the point of informing the rest of the world about how MGS4, Resistance2, LBP blahblahblah are better than GoW2, NG2, Fable 2 e.t.c ?? That's all a matter of opinion and leads to nowhere.

Now we have to endure through months of.....endless killzone2 talk and drooling over just about every upcoming sony game (even unknowns like heavy rain or infamous). Not  only that but we'll have to keep up with the long, looong, loooooooooooooong list of sony' 2009 games even though most of them will probably be released in 2010.

Anyway, MS (as a games' publisher not just hardware maker) has slaughtered sony for 2 consecutive years in terms of sales so maybe sony fans should wait a bit before declaring a future....victory.



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Agamemnon862 on 02 December 2008

2009 will be a great year for Sony, but I wouldnt count 360 out yet. Last year, everyone raved about how 360 had no games for 08 and how 2008 was gonna be the year. Well they were wrong about all of it, 360's lineup was just as good as the Ps3's. Thing is that MS announces games usually a year or so in advance, while Sony announces them 2-3 years in advance, often they get delayed many times. That being said the PS3 does have a very strong lineup for 09, I cant wait.



FPSrules on 02 December 2008
Neoraf said:

The momentum is in Microsoft Hands.

When Sony will cut the prices... do you believe Microsoft will sit and stare?
Microsoft will probably cut another 100$ on Elites, and will replace Arcade by the Pro(60gb) at 199$.

Xbox Live is the online service of choice.
A true social phenomenon.

With all the big 2009 games for Microsoft (Mass Effect 2, Halo Wars, Alan Wake, Star Ocean 4, Halo3 ODST, GTA4 Lost and Damned, Ninja Blade, name it...), I don't know how Sony can gain ground...

NOTE- i own all 3 systems, and play a fair amount of games on PC, but i hate it when fanboys say stupid things

 big 2009 games for MS, ("Don't see how sony can gain ground....")

Mass Effect 2 is now owned by EA, and bioware has already admitted there is a possiblilty that it will be on all systems, besides that i own mass effect, its addicting at first, but its extremely repeative, and that what kills the game.

GTA4 DLC, lol talking about sony delaying games, this was suppose to be out this summer in august, its november now, lol. besides the fact that gta4 was so overrated and not as good as the other parts, i don't see MS making any $ on this.

Ninja Blade, in other words a rip off of Ninja Gaiden

Alan Wake, i give that one to you, it looks hott and i might get it, but its not a exclusive, already confirmed for PC as well

Halo Wars, i was looking foward to this game until i found out it was made by ensemble studios, ensemble studios makes age of empires, and those games are terrible stragety games, want a real stragety game then get Rome total war, or the new one Emprie total war. plus ensemble is closing when halo wars is complete, so they have no reason to make a good game because regardless they are out of a job thanks to MS

im assuming you haven't said hi to

Sony's lineup for 2009

1. Killzone 2

2. God of War 3

3. Infamous

4. MAG

5. Uncharted 2

6. Rachet and Clank

7. Jak and Daxter

8. Gran Turismo 5

9. Final Fantasy 13 Versus

10. Wardevil

11. PlayStation Home (might be out before christmas, just putting this up)

12. Twisted Metal

13. MLB 09 The show (last part was quoted by ESPN "most realistic baseball game ever")

14. Heavy Rain

15. Rockstar secert ps3 exclusive project

16. DC universe

17. White Knight Chronciles

18. Yazuka 3

if that wasn't enough here is a link to more PS3 Exclusives

http://www.ps3forums.com/showthread.php?t=86124



Slimebeast on 02 December 2008
FPSrules said:
Neoraf said:

The momentum is in Microsoft Hands.

When Sony will cut the prices... do you believe Microsoft will sit and stare?
Microsoft will probably cut another 100$ on Elites, and will replace Arcade by the Pro(60gb) at 199$.

Xbox Live is the online service of choice.
A true social phenomenon.

With all the big 2009 games for Microsoft (Mass Effect 2, Halo Wars, Alan Wake, Star Ocean 4, Halo3 ODST, GTA4 Lost and Damned, Ninja Blade, name it...), I don't know how Sony can gain ground...

NOTE- i own all 3 systems, and play a fair amount of games on PC, but i hate it when fanboys say stupid things

 big 2009 games for MS, ("Don't see how sony can gain ground....")

Mass Effect 2 is now owned by EA, and bioware has already admitted there is a possiblilty that it will be on all systems, besides that i own mass effect, its addicting at first, but its extremely repeative, and that what kills the game.

GTA4 DLC, lol talking about sony delaying games, this was suppose to be out this summer in august, its november now, lol. besides the fact that gta4 was so overrated and not as good as the other parts, i don't see MS making any $ on this.

Ninja Blade, in other words a rip off of Ninja Gaiden

Alan Wake, i give that one to you, it looks hott and i might get it, but its not a exclusive, already confirmed for PC as well

Halo Wars, i was looking foward to this game until i found out it was made by ensemble studios, ensemble studios makes age of empires, and those games are terrible stragety games, want a real stragety game then get Rome total war, or the new one Emprie total war. plus ensemble is closing when halo wars is complete, so they have no reason to make a good game because regardless they are out of a job thanks to MS

im assuming you haven't said hi to

Sony's lineup for 2009

1. Killzone 2

2. God of War 3

3. Infamous

4. MAG

5. Uncharted 2

6. Rachet and Clank

7. Jak and Daxter

8. Gran Turismo 5

9. Final Fantasy 13 Versus

10. Wardevil

11. PlayStation Home (might be out before christmas, just putting this up)

12. Twisted Metal

13. MLB 09 The show (last part was quoted by ESPN "most realistic baseball game ever")

14. Heavy Rain

15. Rockstar secert ps3 exclusive project

16. DC universe

17. White Knight Chronciles

18. Yazuka 3

if that wasn't enough here is a link to more PS3 Exclusives

http://www.ps3forums.com/showthread.php?t=86124

Wardevil?
Twisted metal?
And a base-ball game??

lol

And BTW, half of those games will be postponed to 2010 anyway.

 

 



selnor on 02 December 2008
FPSrules said:
Neoraf said:

The momentum is in Microsoft Hands.

When Sony will cut the prices... do you believe Microsoft will sit and stare?
Microsoft will probably cut another 100$ on Elites, and will replace Arcade by the Pro(60gb) at 199$.

Xbox Live is the online service of choice.
A true social phenomenon.

With all the big 2009 games for Microsoft (Mass Effect 2, Halo Wars, Alan Wake, Star Ocean 4, Halo3 ODST, GTA4 Lost and Damned, Ninja Blade, name it...), I don't know how Sony can gain ground...

NOTE- i own all 3 systems, and play a fair amount of games on PC, but i hate it when fanboys say stupid things

 big 2009 games for MS, ("Don't see how sony can gain ground....")

Mass Effect 2 is now owned by EA, and bioware has already admitted there is a possiblilty that it will be on all systems, besides that i own mass effect, its addicting at first, but its extremely repeative, and that what kills the game.

GTA4 DLC, lol talking about sony delaying games, this was suppose to be out this summer in august, its november now, lol. besides the fact that gta4 was so overrated and not as good as the other parts, i don't see MS making any $ on this.

Ninja Blade, in other words a rip off of Ninja Gaiden

Alan Wake, i give that one to you, it looks hott and i might get it, but its not a exclusive, already confirmed for PC as well

Halo Wars, i was looking foward to this game until i found out it was made by ensemble studios, ensemble studios makes age of empires, and those games are terrible stragety games, want a real stragety game then get Rome total war, or the new one Emprie total war. plus ensemble is closing when halo wars is complete, so they have no reason to make a good game because regardless they are out of a job thanks to MS

im assuming you haven't said hi to

Sony's lineup for 2009

1. Killzone 2

2. God of War 3

3. Infamous

4. MAG

5. Uncharted 2

6. Rachet and Clank

7. Jak and Daxter

8. Gran Turismo 5

9. Final Fantasy 13 Versus

10. Wardevil

11. PlayStation Home (might be out before christmas, just putting this up)

12. Twisted Metal

13. MLB 09 The show (last part was quoted by ESPN "most realistic baseball game ever") LOL

14. Heavy Rain

15. Rockstar secert ps3 exclusive project

16. DC universe

17. White Knight Chronciles

18. Yazuka 3

if that wasn't enough here is a link to more PS3 Exclusives

http://www.ps3forums.com/showthread.php?t=86124

Strikethrough the ones that are very likely to be delayed till 2010. Why do this. Remember 07 when PS3 fans posted loads of games as if they were definately coming out in 08. Loads of those are delayed till 2009 and some even likely 2010.

 



clerk on 02 December 2008

2008! The Year of the PS3!

This is hilarious.