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ZenfoldorVGI said:
kn said:
If Sony counters with a price cut in March, what then? Are we back to where we were with the PS3 gaining ground on the 360 during 2009-2010 or will the 360 pick up enough momentum this holiday that it can't be caught?

It would be interesting if Microsoft were to watch for the PS3 price drop and see how things progress -- give Sony 6 months or so to gain ground, then introduce a "slim" 360 with a slide-in drive, built in 120 gig, built in wifi, etc., for $199.00 going into the holidays of 2009. That would put the 360 soundly cheaper than the PS3 for enough time to ride out the end of the generation with a comfortable lead before the next iteration is released... Can MS have a slim ready for Christmas 2009 at $199? If they did, and it had built in wifi, I'd buy another 360 on the spot...

 

If Microsoft introduces a slim next year, then I think Sony will end up third this gen.

its third already lol .. its will never catch the 360 this year but maybe next year cuz some good games are coming for ps3

 



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NNN2004 said:
ZenfoldorVGI said:
kn said:
If Sony counters with a price cut in March, what then? Are we back to where we were with the PS3 gaining ground on the 360 during 2009-2010 or will the 360 pick up enough momentum this holiday that it can't be caught?

It would be interesting if Microsoft were to watch for the PS3 price drop and see how things progress -- give Sony 6 months or so to gain ground, then introduce a "slim" 360 with a slide-in drive, built in 120 gig, built in wifi, etc., for $199.00 going into the holidays of 2009. That would put the 360 soundly cheaper than the PS3 for enough time to ride out the end of the generation with a comfortable lead before the next iteration is released... Can MS have a slim ready for Christmas 2009 at $199? If they did, and it had built in wifi, I'd buy another 360 on the spot...

 

If Microsoft introduces a slim next year, then I think Sony will end up third this gen.

its third already lol .. its will never catch the 360 this year but maybe next year cuz some good games are coming for ps3

 

 

Unfortunately, unique/great games did not fare well this fall.  Yes they were somewhat overshadowed, but they still underperformed.  I think it is a bit too late for games to strongly push that many units.  The gap can only be bridged (IMO only) by a strong price cut plan for the PS3 and first introduction of a slim version.



ZenfoldorVGI said:
kn said:
If Sony counters with a price cut in March, what then? Are we back to where we were with the PS3 gaining ground on the 360 during 2009-2010 or will the 360 pick up enough momentum this holiday that it can't be caught?

It would be interesting if Microsoft were to watch for the PS3 price drop and see how things progress -- give Sony 6 months or so to gain ground, then introduce a "slim" 360 with a slide-in drive, built in 120 gig, built in wifi, etc., for $199.00 going into the holidays of 2009. That would put the 360 soundly cheaper than the PS3 for enough time to ride out the end of the generation with a comfortable lead before the next iteration is released... Can MS have a slim ready for Christmas 2009 at $199? If they did, and it had built in wifi, I'd buy another 360 on the spot...

 

If Microsoft introduces a slim next year, then I think Sony will end up third this gen.

If Microsoft did nothing at all next year, I think its pretty likely at this point Sony will remain in third.

 



Tease.

Squilliam said:
ZenfoldorVGI said:
kn said:
If Sony counters with a price cut in March, what then? Are we back to where we were with the PS3 gaining ground on the 360 during 2009-2010 or will the 360 pick up enough momentum this holiday that it can't be caught?

It would be interesting if Microsoft were to watch for the PS3 price drop and see how things progress -- give Sony 6 months or so to gain ground, then introduce a "slim" 360 with a slide-in drive, built in 120 gig, built in wifi, etc., for $199.00 going into the holidays of 2009. That would put the 360 soundly cheaper than the PS3 for enough time to ride out the end of the generation with a comfortable lead before the next iteration is released... Can MS have a slim ready for Christmas 2009 at $199? If they did, and it had built in wifi, I'd buy another 360 on the spot...

 

If Microsoft introduces a slim next year, then I think Sony will end up third this gen.

If Microsoft did nothing at all next year, I think its pretty likely at this point Sony will remain in third.

 

 

lol, if it wasn't for backward compatibility and the fact that I like to occasionally rent a blu-ray and play it on my DLP projector (it's friggen sweet), I'd put my PS3 up for sale since I don't really play it as a games machine.  That brings to mind another reason why the PS3 may fare poorly this year given the economic meltdown:

People love to watch movies -- buy, rent, etc.  Blu-ray disks are expensive!  I'm not willing to spend 25 to 30 bucks for a new release.  That's just too damn much.  People may be looking at the cost of the media and deciding that blu-ray isn't something they want this year since the media is so darn expensive.  That erases the one big advantage the PS3 has over the 360... If you drop that out of the equation AND compare the actual current price, the PS3 could be in for a real beatdown this holiday.



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realill said:

I doubt Russia even has the XBox 360 install base, which can be compared to Others weekly sales. PC is dominating the market, since PC game disks are officialy sold for 10$ here and can be easily downloaded :) .

ZenfoldorVGI Sony introduce price cut in march, at least there are strong rumors about it ;). Before XBox 360 price cut it was dominated by PS3.

Such desperation..  ;)

It wasn't dominated, just barely getting by. How is it that the last 6 weeks of the year the 360 will make back all the gain the PS3 had on it, and most likely take '08?

Ouch, I can taste those tears.

 

 

Common buddy, stop crying. It is just hardware sales - no big deal.



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kn said:
Squilliam said:
ZenfoldorVGI said:
kn said:
If Sony counters with a price cut in March, what then? Are we back to where we were with the PS3 gaining ground on the 360 during 2009-2010 or will the 360 pick up enough momentum this holiday that it can't be caught?

It would be interesting if Microsoft were to watch for the PS3 price drop and see how things progress -- give Sony 6 months or so to gain ground, then introduce a "slim" 360 with a slide-in drive, built in 120 gig, built in wifi, etc., for $199.00 going into the holidays of 2009. That would put the 360 soundly cheaper than the PS3 for enough time to ride out the end of the generation with a comfortable lead before the next iteration is released... Can MS have a slim ready for Christmas 2009 at $199? If they did, and it had built in wifi, I'd buy another 360 on the spot...

 

If Microsoft introduces a slim next year, then I think Sony will end up third this gen.

If Microsoft did nothing at all next year, I think its pretty likely at this point Sony will remain in third.

 

 

lol, if it wasn't for backward compatibility and the fact that I like to occasionally rent a blu-ray and play it on my DLP projector (it's friggen sweet), I'd put my PS3 up for sale since I don't really play it as a games machine.  That brings to mind another reason why the PS3 may fare poorly this year given the economic meltdown:

People love to watch movies -- buy, rent, etc.  Blu-ray disks are expensive!  I'm not willing to spend 25 to 30 bucks for a new release.  That's just too damn much.  People may be looking at the cost of the media and deciding that blu-ray isn't something they want this year since the media is so darn expensive.  That erases the one big advantage the PS3 has over the 360... If you drop that out of the equation AND compare the actual current price, the PS3 could be in for a real beatdown this holiday.

I suspect the black friday deals will be huge for the 360 this year. When people are feeling poorer but still need to buy things they become a lot more price concious and they look for savings/special pricing wherever they can.

But for Blu Ray - Yeah people tend to switch to the "inferior" substitute when their purchasing power diminishes. I can see Blu Ray as one of the luxuries which gets cut back on when DVDs are "perfectly good" alternatives. Heck even people with players may end up buying fewer Blu Ray movies.

Another thing - Netflix may have even more drawcards for the 360, if people want to save money - spending $12 a month on Gold and Netflix is cheaper than buying a Blu Ray movie every couple of months and yields a far higher quantity of entertainment than a single disk short or long term.

 



Tease.

It seems like 360 is still badly undertracked in other. As Microsoft had just announce that they sold 3:1 of its rival ps3.
360 numbers should be 363,282 in other.



msnolp said:
It seems like 360 is still badly undertracked in other. As Microsoft had just announce that they sold 3:1 of its rival ps3.
360 numbers should be 363,282.

 

....Did they outsell 3:1 in UK or in all of Europe? Check your sources. VGchartz has 360 outselling PS3 by around 3:1 in UK.



bbsin said:
msnolp said:
It seems like 360 is still badly undertracked in other. As Microsoft had just announce that they sold 3:1 of its rival ps3.
360 numbers should be 363,282.

 

....Did they outsell 3:1 in UK or in all of Europe? Check your sources. VGchartz has 360 outselling PS3 by around 3:1 in UK.

This is the leatest new announced by MS, its now comfirmed the whole EU and not only UK alone.

 



msnolp said:
bbsin said:
msnolp said:
It seems like 360 is still badly undertracked in other. As Microsoft had just announce that they sold 3:1 of its rival ps3.
360 numbers should be 363,282.

 

....Did they outsell 3:1 in UK or in all of Europe? Check your sources. VGchartz has 360 outselling PS3 by around 3:1 in UK.

This is the leatest new announced by MS, its now comfirmed the whole EU and not only UK alone.

 

You need to check your sources before posting.

http://vgchartz.com/forum/thread.php?id=50298

This thread (which links to an article) should be referring to the data VGchartz just posted, or probably last week's data. VGchartz has 360 at around 3:1 over PS3 in the UK for both weeks, just as the interview points out. It's ok, noobs make mistakes all the time, especially when rejecting VGchartz data.

"For us in EMEA [Europe, the Middle East and Africa], there's a been a considerable uptick in what we're spending in terms of media, almost effectively to launch levels again. We’ve seen this huge uptick in our velocity, which has taken us considerably ahead, certainly of PlayStation 3, right across the region. In some geographies, the U.K. specifically, we were almost three times Sony’s volume last week, for instance"

-Chris Lewis of Microsoft