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Honestly, I think Sony will probably end up in 2nd at the end of this generation, unless Microsoft releases a 360 slim in 2009 to combat a price-drop.

That said, 3 months ago, I would've given the 360 no shot at all. Microsoft has really done some harsh battling for marketshare starting at E3, and they aren't rolling over. Either way, it's a great sales race, and MS is fighting pretty hard to beat Sony, so you never know either way.

No telling what they have up their sleeves.



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360 is doing well and it's up to Sony to distinguish itself from 360 rather then emulate it too much. It needs to Smack the consumer in the face why PS3 is a higher price like *Smack* bluray etc. etc.



It will happen.

No doubt about that bad boy. The question is when.

A 299 Euro and 299 American price point for the game would be killer, and sales would increase in crazy intervals.



A 5-6 million lead isn't a lot, a healthy gaming platform at a mass market entry pricing easily sells more than double that amount a year.

Some people claim the gap between 360 and PS3 sales has remained the same. That's of course not the case, the PS3 sold a lot better taking equal timeframes and think about it, a 5-6 million lead for a 1 year headstart in Japan and North America, a 1 year and 5 months headstart for Europe and even a much larger headstart for some smaller regions (the PS3 for example is yet to launch for South America).

One thing which IMO is striking is that many fanboys who claim the gap to have remained the same, also at a time claimed the 360 sold extremely well its first years on the market. Think about it, if the gap remained the same and the 360 sold so extremely well then how the hell could the gap be only 5-6 millions considering the huge headstarts the 360 had for the various regions?

In reality the gap between 360 and PS3 has already gotten 3 million smaller, this at a much higher entry pricing for the PS3 and most of its most anticipated games yet to come. Meanwhile the 360 is selling at a similar price as when the original XBox was taken off the market and all major XBox games already saw sequels on the 360.

The PS3 is set to overtake 360 sales soon enough. In the past I anticipated this to happen for 2009 and I think I'll stick to that.



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I have deffinetly seen my mind change on this subject. A few months ago I felt that Sony had a good shot at passing 360 mid next year. I was expecting Sony to have a much better marketing stratagy planned for its 3 biggest releases, but they sent MSPR, R2, and LBP to die. Now they can't drop the price because, of the way the Q2 profits went, and it is impossible to determine when they will. Like many others I would expect a price drop between Febuary and April, but that is not a sure thing. If Sony does not drop the price early next year, and instead waits tell October I feel PS3 will be a 3rd place finisher.

Microsoft have done a ton of work. The price cuts have been a big suprise to me, the it seems they have hit the sweat spot in EU. Now that people in EU can buy 2 real 360's for the price of 1 PS3, it has become to large of a price differance. The biggest thing for MS rieally has to be netflix though. I have heard people that walk by a conversation about games, and make a snide remaker saying they might get a 360 for this.



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MikeB said:

A 5-6 million lead isn't a lot, a healthy gaming platform at a mass market entry pricing easily sells more than double that amount a year.

Some people claim the gap between 360 and PS3 sales has remained the same. That's of course not the case, the PS3 sold a lot better taking equal timeframes and think about it, a 5-6 million lead for a 1 year headstart in Japan and North America, a 1 year and 5 months headstart for Europe and even a much larger headstart for some smaller regions (the PS3 for example is yet to launch for South America).

One thing which IMO is striking is that many fanboys who claim the gap to have remained the same, also at a time claimed the 360 sold extremely well its first years on the market. Think about it, if the gap remained the same and the 360 sold so extremely well then how the hell could the gap be only 5-6 millions considering the huge headstarts the 360 had for the various regions?

In reality the gap between 360 and PS3 has already gotten 3 million smaller, this at a much higher entry pricing for the PS3 and most of its most anticipated games yet to come. Meanwhile the 360 is selling at a similar price as when the original XBox was taken off the market and all major XBox games already saw sequels on the 360.

The PS3 is set to overtake 360 sales soon enough. In the past I anticipated this to happen for 2009 and I think I'll stick to that.

Not going to happen.  That's called being "overly optimistic."

For anyone to expect the gap to NOT decrease would be rediculous.  It was the newer system, and the BD player everyone wanted.  However, with more and more options coming into the market, such as HD streaming, and BD adoption being slower than DVD was, and with stand along player prices dropping, the PS3 will lose some steam.

Also, I'm tired of you claiming that the Xbox 360 has no great games coming!  Just because it wasn't a sequal to an Xbox game, doesn't mean it won't be a hit, plus there are all those multi-platform games that the majority sell better on the Xbox 360.  There are countless big titles coming for the 360, plus many more titles I am sure will be announced.  Also, people seem to forget that FFXIII is coming to the 360 now as well, and mark my words, in America it will sell more copies on the 360 than on the PS3.

All the PS3 has is a much delayed GT5, Killzone 2, and God of War 3 as their known much anticipated sequals.  Which I highly doubt will be enough to spur sales the rate they would need to overcome the 360 in 2009.

Oh, and I guarantee that if the PS3 price drops, and it does impact sales a great deal, Microsoft will put out another price cut, clear and simple.  They can afford it, Sony can't.



Darth Tigris said:
RolStoppable said:
The PS3 probably won't ever pass the 360 in lifetime sales. The battle takes place in the Western markets, Japan will be nearly a non issue even though the PS3 will win this region obviously. But since Japanese support for both consoles will most likely dry up due to the Wii's success, hardware sales for the 360 and PS3 in Nippon will drop to insignificant amounts for the most part of the rest of this generation.

The 360 and PS3 share the majority of their games, but Microsoft seems to have the slightly more important exclusives for the Western markets. That however is pretty much offset by Sony's stronger brand recognition in continental Europe. So the momentum between the two systems will mostly shift due to pricecuts and rarely due to a game release.

If we assume that the PS3 beats the 360 in Japan by an additional two million by the end of its lifetime, that still leaves the 360 with a four million lead in the Western markets and as mentioned in the previous paragraph, it looks unlikely that the PS3 could overcome this. The lifespans of both systems will end at pretty much the same time, because they are both dependent on each other in terms of third party releases, so the supposed advantage of a longer lifespan for the PS3 is unrealistic.

 

 Great post. 

 

          Agreed, explains everything intelligently. 



@ nightsurge

Also, I'm tired of you claiming that the Xbox 360 has no great games coming! Just because it wasn't a sequal to an Xbox game


LOL, yup you're too tired to read. I never claimed that.

However what does it mean then? It means that for XBox fans, all games the average XBox owner liked are already on the 360 and that the entry pricing is low enough for them to buy one. So this very likely means that the pool of upgrading XBox fans will decrease for the upcoming year.



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"LOL, yup you're too tired to read. I never claimed that."

You were implying it by stating that all original Xbox games had seen sequels, and by purposely ignoring the fact that many new IP's and other games on the 360 are yet to come and that new 360 IP's as well as sequels are selling well and have more to come.  So you are leaving out a lot in your conclusions.

And you seem to think that the majority of 360 owners HAS to be original Xbox owners.  I beg to differ.  While many of the original Xbox owners did upgrade, many haven't yet, and many more PS2 owners or new console owners are jumping to the Wii or 360 rather than the PS3.  I don't think the 360 sales will slow anytime soon, Mike.  Nor will the PS3 sales increase enough to overtake the 360 within a year.  Maybe 2-3 years, if at all.  I guess only time will prove you wrong, eh, Mike?



dli2k3 said:
People interested in Halo games already have a 360...GoW 2 had almost no effect on 360 sales. Star Ocean games have never been console sellers. TLR and SO4 will probably have the same effect as ToV which means 1-2 weeks of 20k units in Japan. I don't think you can say that about FFXIII. If Sony can drop the PS3 prices at the launch of FFXIII, it will sell like hot cakes in Japan and I doubt you'll see the PS3 under 20k in Japan any longer. Since I don't work for Sony I don't really know if they have plan or if it'll be advantageous for them to drop the price, but it could very well happen imo.

That said, I don't think the PS3 will overtake the 360 sales worldwide anytime soon. The game library is getting much better as well as the online, but the 360 has already established itself as the main HD console in America. Added to that, developers love to develop for the 360 and you'll keep seeing good games for it and it will keep selling outside Japan.

 

That cant be applied to ANYTHING,Anyone who likes Resistance games already have a PS3,The game had NO effect on sales..

 

Dont you feel stupid.