Ouch mrstickball, I expected better from you. You've been corrected by some people by now, but I can only agree with them.

Zack and Wiki and No More Heroes are both big successes. I mean, you've been here a long time, how can you possibly think otherwise?

It sold good considering how good it could have sold. That's the only thing you have to ask yourself when deciding how good a game sold: "what was the game's sales potential?" In the case if No More Heroes, it basically fulfilled that potential fantastically.

...So 450,000 and 360,000 units (Z&W then NMH) are considered major 3rd party successes? I was just using 2 of the better-reviewed games that had sub-par sales on the Wii. If both were successes, what about the PS3/X360 games that had similar reviews (80%+) that managed to sell millions like Dead Rising, or Saints Row?

Could also go with:

Madden 09 (360,000)
de Blob (200,000)
Fifa 09 (190,000)
Geometry Wars: Galaxies (70,000)
Trauma Center: New Blood (150,000 + PAL)

Just for a few of the higher rated 3rd party games in the Wii library that didn't perform too well for sales.

You're pushing it, man. Madden, Blob and Fifa still have the majority of sales ahead of them, and you know it. Geometry sales are awful, I'll give you that, but it was horribly overpriced (€40) and it should've been WiiWare.

It seems I also have to remind you of the difference in development costs between Wii and HD consoles: they are enormous.

medal of honor heroes is awesome, if it was a bit longer and had some Call of Duty style missions could be one of the best shooters... : (

at least EA must be very happy with the sales!

Well THQ said that De Blob is already a commercial success, game will continue selling without a doubt.

Madden 09 outsold 08 in every week, and it will continue to sell steadily (even with that stupid box art)

Medal of Honor:H2 500 000 copies of PSP bulid game, this is a massive success especially when this franchise has been doing poorly lately.

Developers of Z&W, Boom Blox, NMH and etc. etc. all have stated that those games were profitable and were a financial successes. I just dont get why people still go on about those games not selling, especially considering how Niche NMH and Z&W are.

But i wish that shopes in the UK would stop bundling Wii with Carnival Games, i cant look at it in the charts anymore.

Dude, you're really overdoing it now.

Success is determined by a combination of the cost of the game to develop+publish it and its sales.
On average we can say that Wii games are at least 3 times cheaper to produce, so that alone would make Z&W sales compare to a 1.3 million selling HD game in profits. And both Z&W and NMH hardly saw any advertising. Plus these games are niche.

I don't have to tell you that advertising can go into the millions for the high budget HD games. 

so nintendo fans boycott activision confirmed???

Nah, eliasg, I'll buy it.

No. I work at Circuit City (not one of the stores that is closing down) and we do a pretty good amount of business in the chain. The only thing is that we still haven't sold any of the Wii version.