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Do you have any actual data to back up that claim, Esa-Petteri? I ask out of curiosity as, so far as I know, there has never been a concise survey of video game habits amongst the inhabitants of any country (let alone on a worldwide scale).



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Sky Render said:
Do you have any actual data to back up that claim, Esa-Petteri? I ask out of curiosity as, so far as I know, there has never been a concise survey of video game habits amongst the inhabitants of any country (let alone on a worldwide scale).

 

 

No. Do you have any actual data to prove me wrong?



Of course not; as I said, I have no knowledge of any extensive surveys on the subject. That said, if you don't have evidence to back your claim up, you cannot declare it to be true because there is no evidence to show it to be wrong either. When there is no evidence for or against something, it is referred to by many terms: opinion, belief, faith, feeling... Note that none of these terms indicates certainty, accuracy, or argument-quality material.



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Meh, I'd just rather think that I'm right untill someone proves me wrong.



http://www.usatoday.com/tech/news/2004-05-12-gamer-demographics_x.htm

http://www.itwire.com/content/view/21365/1092/

http://www.kotaku.com.au/games/2008/10/how_old_is_the_average_australian_gamer_30.html

All news stories stating the the average gamer is around 30 and the majority are over 18



"Pier was a chef, a gifted and respected chef who made millions selling his dishes to the residents of New York City and Boston, he even had a famous jingle playing in those cities that everyone knew by heart. He also had a restaurant in Los Angeles, but not expecting LA to have such a massive population he only used his name on that restaurant and left it to his least capable and cheapest chefs. While his New York restaurant sold kobe beef for $100 and his Boston restaurant sold lobster for $50, his LA restaurant sold cheap hotdogs for $30. Initially these hot dogs sold fairly well because residents of los angeles were starving for good food and hoped that the famous name would denote a high quality, but most were disappointed with what they ate. Seeing the success of his cheap hot dogs in LA, Pier thought "why bother giving Los Angeles quality meats when I can oversell them on cheap hotdogs forever, and since I don't care about the product anyways, why bother advertising them? So Pier continued to only sell cheap hotdogs in LA and was surprised to see that they no longer sold. Pier's conclusion? Residents of Los Angeles don't like food."

"The so-called "hardcore" gamer is a marketing brainwashed, innovation shunting, self-righteous idiot who pays videogame makers far too much money than what is delivered."

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That's a pretty closed-minded way to think, Esa-Petteri. By assuming you're right, you automatically taint all of your observations, including your assessment of anything which might contradict or disprove what you assume to be right. It's a very dangerous mindset to take, one that historically has caused a great deal of problems on every level it's been practiced at.



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griffinA said:
http://www.usatoday.com/tech/news/2004-05-12-gamer-demographics_x.htm

http://www.itwire.com/content/view/21365/1092/

http://www.kotaku.com.au/games/2008/10/how_old_is_the_average_australian_gamer_30.html

All news stories stating the the average gamer is around 30 and the majority are over 18

 

 

Is that actually one survey? Based on how many participants?



Sky Render said:
That's a pretty closed-minded way to think, Esa-Petteri. By assuming you're right, you automatically taint all of your observations, including your assessment of anything which might contradict or disprove what you assume to be right. It's a very dangerous mindset to take, one that historically has caused a great deal of problems on every level it's been practiced at.

 

 

I sincerely doubt that it will cause great deal of problems if I think that the majority of gamers are kids.



Esa-Petteri said:
griffinA said:
http://www.usatoday.com/tech/news/2004-05-12-gamer-demographics_x.htm

http://www.itwire.com/content/view/21365/1092/

http://www.kotaku.com.au/games/2008/10/how_old_is_the_average_australian_gamer_30.html

All news stories stating the the average gamer is around 30 and the majority are over 18

 

 

Is that actually one survey? Based on how many participants?

 

They're two differnt surveys.. and there are a lot more out there like that. NPD has one etc.



I believe it was a call survey of 1,400 households. So a about a medium-size survey control group wise



"Pier was a chef, a gifted and respected chef who made millions selling his dishes to the residents of New York City and Boston, he even had a famous jingle playing in those cities that everyone knew by heart. He also had a restaurant in Los Angeles, but not expecting LA to have such a massive population he only used his name on that restaurant and left it to his least capable and cheapest chefs. While his New York restaurant sold kobe beef for $100 and his Boston restaurant sold lobster for $50, his LA restaurant sold cheap hotdogs for $30. Initially these hot dogs sold fairly well because residents of los angeles were starving for good food and hoped that the famous name would denote a high quality, but most were disappointed with what they ate. Seeing the success of his cheap hot dogs in LA, Pier thought "why bother giving Los Angeles quality meats when I can oversell them on cheap hotdogs forever, and since I don't care about the product anyways, why bother advertising them? So Pier continued to only sell cheap hotdogs in LA and was surprised to see that they no longer sold. Pier's conclusion? Residents of Los Angeles don't like food."

"The so-called "hardcore" gamer is a marketing brainwashed, innovation shunting, self-righteous idiot who pays videogame makers far too much money than what is delivered."