300-500K is great but the countless posts here comparing Gears2 and R2 makes it look low. I think the people complaining want to see a PS3 exclusive with Halo/Gears numbers. Just so they can say... “Seeeeeeeeee PS3 has huge monster sellers too!!”

According to the article on the front page the 2.1 million was worldwide not US.

1.6 million in US, 0.7 million in others

So 500k wouldn't be so bad

mrstickball said: FilaBrasileiro said: mrstickball said: 3 Xbox 360 games have sold over 1 million copies on it's first week this year. How is that a 'starvation factor'. Better yet, why don't you tell us how the heck the Xbox 360 can launch so many high-selling games, and be starved? The X360 shipped Mercs 2: World in Flames, Rock Band 2, The Force Unleashed, Saints Row 2, Fable 2, Fallout 3, Fifa 09, Dead Space, Pro Evo Soccer, and now Gears of War 2 - All of which are million sellers (or going to be before they run out of steam). How is that being starved for good games? How many million sellers has the Playstation 3 sold since September? And as of today (not including Gears, even), the X360 has had 2 confirmed million sellers since September - Fable and TFU, to 1 Playstation 3 game (Fifa 09). If anything, the Playstation 3 base is starving for good games, not the X360. That's just as a retarded argument as the post you were quoting, considering most of the games you listed are available for both systems. The reason the 360 games sell more are: 1) Twice the install base in NA and 6 million lead on the PS3 2) A lot of multi console owners prefer buying games on the 360 for various reasons (achievements, friends are on Live, etc..) It's that simple. My point was if you wanted to play *that* game of consoles being starved for games, the X360 has more games that came out in the past 3-6 months than the Playstation 3. I don't think either is starved, FYI. And correct me if I'm wrong, but: 1) The Playstation 3 is tied in Europe (or about that much), and has a hefty lead in Japan. Why aren't you taking either into consideration? That's called cherrypicking. 2) How many PS3 and X360 owners actually have the other system? Correct me if I'm wrong, but the last survey I saw put multi-console ownership below 20%. How the heck is 20% going to effect it that much, given the fact that said 20% isn't going to swing to the X360 100% of the time. Even if they were twice as likely to buy a game for the X360 than the PS3 (that's multi-plat), that'd increase sales by a whopping 4%. And that's assuming that said 20% all own a PS3 and X360, and no other combination (for all we know, it'd most likely be around 10% total, which would reduce your argument to an overall effect of 2%) The real answer is: Playstation 3 owners don't buy many games games (Attach Ratio = 5.3 globally) compared to a X360 owner (Attach Ratio = 8.1 globally). If one console's average owner buys 50% more games, your going to sell more. Add in a 33% lead in hardware sales, and it's a recipie for much larger sales for most every title.

I did say 6 million lead WW and Japan is irrelevant for the games you said (western games), western games are bought mainly in NA and Europe where the 360 has a 7 million lead or something. What you're doing is called reaching for straws.
2)If you're right ( I don't know if you are and honestly don't care), 20% of what? Let's take the smallest install base and say 20% of that. It doesn't sound like much but put it in absolute numbers.
Finally it's not surprising the 360 has a higher attach rate considering all the major franchises are already out for it and Sony keeps delaying their major franchises.

500k or 400k or whatever around those numbers is anything but a bomb unless you let all that irrelevant internet hype get to your head.

@Fila

And the funny thing is thats actually World wide sales, R2 should sell double or possibly more than what cod4 did on the ps3 its first week world wide.

I was expecting 500k first week sales for R2, so I overshot by 50 - 150k.

With the holidays coming up it will break 1M in NA by the end of 2008 easy

Sales for R2 were impressive, you are just comparing them to gears 2, Gears is the new halo for xbox not a fair comparison

kowenicki said: What major exclusive frasnchise does sony have left? Why havent sony yet managed to produce a huge selling new franchise in the same ball park as Gears sales numbers?

Thats because M$ produced Grears right? lol. It's obvious that sony is trying to develop multiple franchises to see which one hits the jackpot but like I said in a thread of mine, the biggest problem of the PS brand is the fact that it's userbase is  VERY varied. Just check out this thread I created:

http://www.vgchartz.com/forum/thread.php?id=47472&start=0

Just bought the games its incredible in short.

theres alot of games to get on ps3. gears 2 is probably the first game 360 owners have bought this year! everyone was hungry for a top game and they got it.