| Garnett said: Of course its going to have a lower resoultion cause the PS3 GPU is weaker than 360 GPU,but PS3 fanboys cant see that.. |
Can you stop with this nonsense? What is your technical background that you can make this statement with such certainty? Please tell me your belief in this was not determined by what you read on some forum.
Thanks for the input, Jeff.
| Jordahn said: So it sounds like if you have a 1365 x 768 native resolution HDTV, the PS3 Bioshock running at 720p will get upscaled by the HDTV to fit the screen. But the 360 Bioshock gets upscaled to 1080 by the 360 and gets downscaled by that same HDTV to fit the sceeen. Hmmmm...... |
It depends.
If your 1365x768 TV doesn't support 1080p then the 360 or the PS3 can't give it a 1080p signal. If your 1365x768 does support it then the consoles can give a 1080p signal then the TV will downscale it to 1365x768.
Anyway the best for a 1365x768 TV is to set you consoles to send a 720p or a 1080i (if supported by your TV) signal.
dbot said:
Can you stop with this nonsense? What is your technical background that you can make this statement with such certainty? Please tell me your belief in this was not determined by what you read on some forum. |
Let's look at the maximum theoretical numbers for the Xbox 360 and PS3 GPUs.
Triangle Setup
Xbox 360 - 500 Million Triangles/sec
PS3 - 250 Million Triangles/sec
Vertex Shader Processing
Xbox 360 - 6.0 Billion Vertices/sec (using all 48 Unified Pipelines)
Xbox 360 - 2.0 Billion Vertices/sec (using only 16 of the 48 Unified Pipelines)
Xbox 360 - 1.5 Billion Vertices/sec (using only 12 of the 48 Unified Pipelines)
Xbox 360 - 1.0 Billion Vertices/sec (using only 8 of the 48 Unified Pipelines)
PS3 - 1.0 Billion Vertices/sec
Filtered Texture Fetch
Xbox 360 - 8.0 Billion Texels/sec
PS3 - 12.0 Billion Texels/sec
Vertex Texture Fetch
Xbox 360 - 8.0 Billion Texels/sec
PS3 - 4.0 Billion Texels/sec
Pixel Shader Processing with 16 Filtered Texels Per Cycle (Pixel ALU x Clock)
Xbox 360 - 24.0 Billion Pixels/sec (using all 48 Unified Pipelines)
Xbox 360 - 20.0 Billion Pixels/sec (using 40 of the 48 Unified Pipelines)
Xbox 360 - 18.0 Billion Pixels/sec (using 36 of the 48 Unified Pipelines)
Xbox 360 - 16.0 Billion Pixels/sec (using 32 of the 48 Unified Pipelines)
PS3 - 16.0 Billion Pixels/sec
Pixel Shader Processing without Textures (Pixel ALU x Clock)
Xbox 360 - 24.0 Billion Pixels/sec (using all 48 Unified Pipelines)
Xbox 360 - 20.0 Billion Pixels/sec (using 40 of the 48 Unified Pipelines)
Xbox 360 - 18.0 Billion Pixels/sec (using 36 of the 48 Unified Pipelines)
Xbox 360 - 16.0 Billion Pixels/sec (using 32 of the 48 Unified Pipelines)
PS3 - 24.0 Billion Pixels/sec
Multisampled Fill Rate
Xbox 360 - 16.0 Billion Samples/sec (8 ROPS x 4 Samples x 500MHz)
PS3 - 8.0 Billion Samples/sec (8 ROPS x 2 Samples x 500MHz)
Pixel Fill Rate with 4x Multisampled Anti-Aliasing
Xbox 360 - 4.0 Billion Pixels/sec (8 ROPS x 4 Samples x 500MHz / 4)
PS3 - 2.0 Billion Pixels/sec (8 ROPS x 2 Samples x 500MHz / 4)
Pixel Fill Rate without Anti-Aliasing
Xbox 360 - 4.0 Billion Pixels/sec (8 ROPS x 500MHz)
PS3 - 4.0 Billion Pixels/sec (8 ROPS x 500MHz)
Frame Buffer Bandwidth
Xbox 360 - 256.0 GB/sec (dedicated for frame buffer rendering)
PS3 - 20.8 GB/sec (shared with other graphics data: textures and vertices)
PS3 - 10.8 GB/sec (with 10.0 GB/sec subtracted for textures and vertices)
PS3 - 8.4 GB/sec (with 12.4 GB/sec subtracted for textures and vertices)
Texture/Vertex Memory Bandwidth
Xbox 360 - 22.4 GB/sec (shared with CPU)
Xbox 360 - 14.4 GB/sec (with 8.0 GB/sec subtracted for CPU)
Xbox 360 - 12.4 GB/sec (with 10.0 GB/sec subtracted for CPU)
PS3 - 20.8 GB/sec (shared with frame buffer)
PS3 - 10.8 GB/sec (with 10.0 GB/sec subtracted for frame buffer)
PS3 - 8.4 GB/sec (with 12.4 GB/sec subtracted for frame buffer)
Shader Model
Xbox 360 - Shader Model 3.0+ / Unified Shader Architecture
PS3 - Shader Model 3.0 / Discrete Shader Architecture
Xbox 360 has the advantage in most cases.
Asmo said:
It depends. If your 1365x768 TV doesn't support 1080p then the 360 or the PS3 can't give it a 1080p signal. If your 1365x768 does support it then the consoles can give a 1080p signal then the TV will downscale it to 1365x768. Anyway the best for a 1365x768 TV is to set you consoles to send a 720p or a 1080i (if supported by your TV) signal. |
Well most newer 1365x768 HDTV's accept a 1080i and a 1080p signal anyway.
Hackers are poor nerds who don't wash.
@ garnett...
Doesn't matter as long as the game looks great.
Hackers are poor nerds who don't wash.
| Garnett said:
Let's look at the maximum theoretical numbers for the Xbox 360 and PS3 GPUs. |
Dunno where you got this but it's wrong in some parts especially here :
Multisampled Fill Rate
Xbox 360 - 16.0 Billion Samples/sec (8 ROPS x 4 Samples x 500MHz)
PS3 - 8.0 Billion Samples/sec (8 ROPS x 2 Samples x 500MHz)
Pixel Fill Rate with 4x Multisampled Anti-Aliasing
Xbox 360 - 4.0 Billion Pixels/sec (8 ROPS x 4 Samples x 500MHz / 4)
PS3 - 2.0 Billion Pixels/sec (8 ROPS x 2 Samples x 500MHz / 4)
Pixel Fill Rate without Anti-Aliasing
Xbox 360 - 4.0 Billion Pixels/sec (8 ROPS x 500MHz)
PS3 - 4.0 Billion Pixels/sec (8 ROPS x 500MHz)
Because PS3's RSX clock isn't at 500 MHz but 550MHz
Asmo said:
Dunno where you got this but it's wrong in some parts especially here : Multisampled Fill Rate
Because PS3's RSX clock isn't at 500 MHz but 550MHz |
Ok,it is 50mhz faster,That dosent really make a difference,Also 360 still wins in most cases...
Garnett said:
Let's look at the maximum theoretical numbers for the Xbox 360 and PS3 GPUs. |
What does this mean to you? You reposted someone else's work regarding a theoretical comparison between the consoles and your insight was the xbox has the "advantage in most cases." If you are going to post technical specs, you should probably provide more in depth analysis than this.
Thanks for the input, Jeff.
| Garnett said:
Ok,it is 50mhz faster,That dosent really make a difference,Also 360 still wins in most cases... |
Well 50 MHz is sure not much difference. The GPU clock is basically the only thing I know about the RSX, what annoys me is that if there's a mistake on something so basic, how can we be sure there is no mistake on something else?
That's why I was wondering where you took this from.
dbot said:
What does this mean to you? You reposted someone else's work regarding a theoretical comparison between the consoles and your insight was the xbox has the "advantage in most cases." If you are going to post technical specs, you should probably provide more in depth analysis than this.
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"Garnett said:
Of course its going to have a lower resoultion cause the PS3 GPU is weaker than 360 GPU,but PS3 fanboys cant see that..
dbot said"Can you stop with this nonsense? What is your technical background that you can make this statement with such certainty? Please tell me your belief in this was not determined by what you read on some forum."
That is the technical stuff right there,Thats all you need to know.
Also the tech was made when the PS3 was announced and the hardware is know,if you dont believe me look it up and post a better source,ill be waiting,and not wikipedia.
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