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Forums - Sony Discussion - Analysis: PS3 selling more games than Xbox 360 with smaller install base

konnichiwa on 28 October 2008
Dolla Dolla said:

Original post's source is from gamerblorge, if that tells you anything.

KatinJin said:

http://www.blog.newsweek.com/blogs/levelup/archive/2008/08/04/pachter-on-apparent-ps3-dominance-among-third-parties.aspx

Quote from newsweek:

In recent earnings reports like EA's and Ubisoft's, a breakdown of revenue by platform shows that PS3 is outstripping 360 and Wii. How do you explain the discrepancy between the installed base advantage that Xbox 360 and Wii have over PS3 and the revenue superiority that the PS3 is demonstrating for EA and Ubisoft?

Two things are at work. First, the way deferred revenue works: EA recognizes revenue on Xbox 360 over six months following the sale, but does NOT do so for PS3. So sales of Xbox 360 games during the last two quarters (Battlefield: Bad Company and Army of Two) are rolling through till December, while sales of PS3 games are booked when sold. Second, some of EA's sales are skewed in Europe, where UEFA Euro 2008 and Battlefield probably sold a little better on PS3, and with Rock Band launching in Europe this year (also skewed PS3). Ubisoft was because of Haze, which was a PS3 exclusive.
 
I don't think a single quarter represents a trend. EA won't be that way when Madden shows up and when the deferral starts to lap itself.

Nothing to see here. Move along.

:).

 






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soccerdrew17 on 28 October 2008
johnsobas said:
Jo21 said:
gebx said:
Jo21 said:
Spankey said:
mrstickball said:
FJ-Warez said:
johnsobas said:
the numbers we have don't back it up, 360 is constantly outselling PS3 WW. The only reason might be that companies are getting more revenue from europe than the US because the games are more expensive.(revenue does not equal profit).

This...

 

This.........Is...........Seconded!

VGC is at odds with the article by a long shot. According to VGC data, the X360 has sold just under 63 million software units this year versus 46.8 million software units for the PS3.

So someone is off by quite a bit. Take your pick.

 

An interesting fact using your numbers:

360 attach rate = 63million software/21.7 million hardware = 2.90322

PS3 attach rate = 46.8 million software/16.15 million hardware = 2.89783

very close if you ask me....even closer if you use an actual number rather than "just under 63 million software units"

this

 

 

yeah but everyone knows that 10 million 360's have RRoD'ed and been thrown in the garbage so...

360 attach rate = 63million software/11.7 million hardware = 5.3846

 

On Topic - Read Patchers comments on these latest articles, he explains why the discrenpencies.  http://www.blog.newsweek.com/blogs/levelup/archive/2008/08/04/pachter-on-apparent-ps3-dominance-among-third-parties.aspx

 

what a good spin!

its maths... find a way to compete against the argument, find better reliable software vs hardware sales.

the point was ps3 with smaller userbase have a very close attach rate of the  360, it he made a esplendid work doing so.

 

If 360 has a bigger userbase, the same attach rate and is outselling the PS3 there is no need to spin anything.  What matters is overall sales, anything else is only about future potential sales.

 

the problem here is that:

1) its talking about revenue not profit

2) its not including just multiplatform games

 

what people are really looking for here is third party multiplatform attach rates, but thats not what they are seeing.  

 



my pillars of gaming: kh, naughty dog, insomniac, ssb, gow, ff

i officially boycott boycotts.  crap.

Seraphic_Sixaxis on 28 October 2008
ZenfoldorVGI said:

Here is why that story is ignorant:

The title: PS3 selling more games than Xbox 360 with smaller install base.

Yet, the actual story only proves that the 360 makes more revenue for 4 3rd party companies last quarter, and that's it. Period. It makes no other claims.

Thus, the title is misleading and factually incorrect because:

1. Game revenue does not equal all games sold. The title implies numeric number of games sold is higher on the PS3, and that's just not true.

2. This is an analysis of 3rd party games, yet the title clearly indicates all games(ie first party games and other 3rd party games that aren't included).

3. This analysis is cherrypicked. The only examples presented here are from publishers that help with the authors point.

Of the 4 companies it encompasses, 1 of them recently released MGS4.

4. Counting Konami for the PS3, is the equivelant of counting Epic for the 360. Yet the article never mentions MGS4.

It only uses examples that prove its point and it presents no contradicting evidence.

It also states a completely different and unprovable point in its title.

This is worse than the Wii NYT article, saying the Wii doesn't sell as may games as the PS3 or 360. In this article, there are also 2 misspelled words.

Anyone can see past this fallacy. The question is, do you choose to see the truth, or accept the lie? It's amazing what people will accept as long as it correlates with their hope.

As for this line:

"The future for the PS3 looks bright and healthy, however if the current trend continues the Xbox 360 might find itself struggling to compete in the market."

Well, you tell me if this article is fair and balanced?

Just for this post, my need to "Jump In'" has lessed greatly.