I have to play it again cause I don't remember everything you said lol

brings back memories.. i always thought mgs3 was the best of all. thank you for that recall. :)

Not too many people did. Considering the relatively low press run of Subsistence, the LE version really was a limited edition. I'd like to have a copy of the third disc for the re-cut 3.5 hr movie, but it's a collectible and typically goes for well over $100 used, often several hundred unopened.

If I ever saw a copy going for under $100, I'd still buy it.

There were three discs in the US release plus a separate copy of Metal Gear Saga Vol. 1 for pre-order.

Just what is this supposed to mean? I haven't played MGS2 yet (this will soon change) but what is 'inherently shallow and meaningless'  about the ending of MGS3? And why are people appreciating MGS2 'better' (at least that's what you seem to imply) than those who liked MGS3 better? I could slightly understand you - wouldn't agree though - if you were comparing Transformers to There Will Be Blood, but this is two MGS's for christ's sake!

Furthermore, your pseudo-intellectualism is amusing.

It's because MGS3 had a lot less mental masturbation going on than MGS2, which for many, was the most offputting part of the game.

That and Raiden of course.

Unless you're into bishonen boys.

Not judging anyone if they are. That's your business.

MGS3 was intentionally written with a more straightforward plot, despite the big twists at the end, although many found the underlying theme of "scene" poignant, particularly since it applies directly to the fact that the player is playing the role of the future mastermind "villain" from the original MG series when he is still considered a patriotic hero. The events that occur within MGS3 are instrumental in Big Boss' disillusionment with concepts such as duty and country, which most soldiers will agree is essential in performing their roles effectively.

While the story was not intentionally obtuse, there are actually quite a few layers going on in MGS3 even without reading too deeply into it.

I was a bit confused about the party after the credits (minor spoiler alert) where the last thing he says is mr. director. Who is Mr. director?

The CIA director.

If you have a PS3, download the MGS Database. It pretty much fills in every single gap not answered in MGS4. It covers every canonical Metal Gear game.

Kojima also admit that MGS2's ending is some kind of failure.

No he didnt, he just regrets things had to be cut out. If it was up to him mgs2 would have had even more mental masturbation at the ending.

When I eventually play Metal Gear Solid 4, I will be comparing it to Metal Gear Solid 3 in terms of quality - that, so far, is my favorite game in the series. I like the understanding it lends to the entire Metal Gear saga's plot, and how when you get down to it everything up to MGS4 has happened because of The Boss.