Can you all keep this in mind in a months time when there's once again a rumour of a Blu Ray add on for the 360

Pretty Please

THIS JUST IN:  Microsoft has contracted Tobisha to make a portable UMD player for the Zune!!!! 

Now let's all watch as M$ says that the UMD will go the way of Blu-Ray!!!

I think Blu Ray will be a commercial success but whether it will really pay back Sony for the price they paid to promote it  is something I’m less sure about. There doesn’t seem to be any great public excitement for it.

I had to go shopping for a new notebook, and while I loved my 17” and was tempted by the 18.4”s, I find too often that I just don’t have the room when working on site. I picked up a little jewell of a Dell XPS 1530 for it’s great screen, keyboard and nice horsepower under the hood (64 bit rocks !). Mainly I liked seeing a solid 5.0 experience number in a sea of 3.3’s. And the 8600 GT graphic card is topped out at 5.9 because it can  supplement the 256MB of onboard RAM with up to 1.7GB from the 4GB of system ram. There ain't much that this graphic system will find challenging.

The point of this being that I actually had the thing four days before I even noticed that it has a Blu Ray optical disk. I’m glad and I probably will sooner or later get the HDMI cable to use it occasionally to  watch a Blu Ray movie on the big plasma. But the point being that the Blu Ray drive was so little ballyhooed that I didn’t even realize I was buying one and it played no part in my choice. Like I said, it just wasn’t that big of a deal; to Dell or to me.

 

shams said: [1] Remember, that MS never really wanted HD-DVD to win. If they did, even 360 would have had one in it. All they wanted, was to "delay" BluRays victory over HD-DVD - to make it even harder for it to become adopted as a standard. Its just like this generation - [2] its not about winning, its about neutralising Sony. They have done a pretty good job to date :P

 

1. If they would have put hddvd in 360, 360 would have launched a year later and for $150 more.  Think it could have stood up to PS3 then?  The answer is no.  360 is ahead only because it rushed ahead in the early-gen vacuum.  MS did what they had to do.  If they could have arranged an hddvd win (income stream, Sony loss in movies) AND a console win (income stream, Sony loss in games), they would've, but they couldn't.

2. Agreed, MS are professional haters. 

 

 

@ Loud_Hot_White_Box

HD DVD drives were half the speed of Sony's Blu-Ray drive for the PS3. It would have been slow for loading games without additional R&D. Issues like disc scratching would remain (although less likely than is currently the case due to far fewer disc rotations per second -> higher data density per track) and HD DVD was to loose the movie format war anyway, the bulk of publishers were behind supporting Blu-Ray from the start.

Barozi said: Let's count some SONY fanboys in this thread: Skeeuk 321tttrini4everz Loud_Hot_White_Box loy310 Staude MikeB PSnPANEK_KLS Wow ! I'm sure megaman2 would be proud of this fanboy army

 

And trying to ostracise(sp?) them for that would make you?....

 

This seems like a loaded topic, MS says a competitors format  is on the outs and bam insta shitstorm. I don't see why This should be a thread, It's already like partisan politics from the companies themselves do we really need the forums to do this as well?

Blu ray the next UMD? I thought HD DVD was the next UMD.

Dystopian Delight said: Barozi said: Let's count some SONY fanboys in this thread: Skeeuk 321tttrini4everz Loud_Hot_White_Box loy310 Staude MikeB PSnPANEK_KLS Wow ! I'm sure megaman2 would be proud of this fanboy army   And trying to ostracise(sp?) them for that would make you?....

at least not a Sony fanboy ^^

 

Don't worry I already received a warning for that ;)

 

Millennium said: naraku2099 said: Millennium said: Honestly, I see it as more of a "next laserdisc" then "next UMD". It doesn't offer enough over the dominant format for most people to care (and for many to even perceive), and so it'll become a niche format for technophiles. I think that's what they said about DVDs at first. They did indeed, but DVD had several major advantages over VHS that Blu-Ray does not have over DVD. The movies were cheaper, the playback experience was a major improvement over the predecessor, (chapters, subtitles, languages, extras, etc. for the epic win), and, yes, the AV quality was improved. While Blu-Ray isn't a step back from DVD in anything other than price, the only real advantage it has over DVD is AV quality, and especially in terms of audio the jump isn't big enough for many people to care about. Ultimately, I believe this will prevent Blu-Ray from overtaking DVD for the same reason Laserdisc failed to overtake VHS. Laserdisc actually had many of the experience-wise advantages over DVD that VHS does, but by itself that wasn't enough: the video quality wasn't much improved and the price was much worse. Blu-Ray has a similar problem: while its AV quality is higher, the experience isn't much improved and the price is, again, worse. Beta was similar, as was Minidisc. Of the three real advantages a media format can have over its predecessor, it doesn't seem like you can win with only one.

It also has bookmarks, more languages, more subtitle options, more and better special features, and many Blu-Rays come with a digital copy on DVD you can rip and save to your computer, iPod etc.

 

konnichiwa said: Blu ray the next UMD? I thought HD DVD was the next UMD.

LOL that's a really good point. Blu-Ray, after all is the one that proved itself the better by sales.